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Re:Apple Gets 36% of Google Revenue in Search Deal, Expert Says by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Monday November 13, 2023 @03:11PM (#38254747)
Part of the antitrust issue is that Apple never developed their own search engine because of these payments. Google paid Apple to not compete.

I doubt that the same number of people willingly choose Google, otherwise they wouldn't be paying so much money to be the default. That's a lot of money to throw away.

Re:Apple Gets 36% of Google Revenue in Search Deal, Expert Says by creato on Monday November 13, 2023 @03:27PM (#38254932)
How is this different from any typical outsourcing arrangement other than the size?

Outsourcing arrangements many different motivations, it’s not just money. Otherwise, basically any outsourcing arrangement can be said to be “throwing away money” for one party.

Re:Apple Gets 36% of Google Revenue in Search Deal, Expert Says by amadeuspagel on Monday November 13, 2023 @03:25PM (#38254905)
There would be no choice without that deal either, Apple would simply sell its users to the next highest bidder.
Re:Apple Gets 36% of Google Revenue in Search Deal, Expert Says by matthewdgreen on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @08:33PM (#38272269)
Or Apple would develop a search engine instead, which is exactly what they did with Maps.
Re:Apple Gets 36% of Google Revenue in Search Deal, Expert Says by smoldesu on Monday November 13, 2023 @07:00PM (#38257041)
> I doubt that the same number of people willingly choose Google

Nobody "chooses" anything, that's the point. If you want to stop using Google on stock iOS, you have to opt-out. Same goes for Android, it's not a market share thing so much as it is an abuse of ubiquity. Defaults are powerful, and a competitor that lets you buy out their defaults is apparently powerful enough to prevent competition.

Google deserves the scrutiny here, but this whole situation really illustrates how hopelessly America is headed towards an antitrust reckoning. FAANG has gone rogue, and foreign regulators have been sounding the alarm for years. The only remaining question is if the FTC has the stomach to butcher their finest pigs.