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Re:Ruby on Rails: The Documentary [video] by lagniappe on Monday November 13, 2023 @09:37AM (#38250558)
sad to see _why the lucky stiff left out, but I suppose it is what he'd have wanted.
Re:Ruby on Rails: The Documentary [video] by chris_st on Monday November 13, 2023 @09:58AM (#38250882)
Don't remember _why doing any Rails development -- he was really key in Ruby land, but did his own (super-minimal) web thing called Camping. Anything I'm forgetting that he did with/for Rails?
Re:Ruby on Rails: The Documentary [video] by vario on Monday November 13, 2023 @11:07AM (#38251771)
his 'artsyness' was the main reason I avoided learning Ruby for years-- wrongly thinking people who code in Ruby speak like him.

I know this is a possibly unpopular opinion but I don't think one should glorify a sophomoric book as a key Ruby book-- there are others that deserve that title, PickAxe is close, but I'd have liked a book like Whittaker's "C#, Player Guide" for Ruby.

Re:Ruby on Rails: The Documentary [video] by sleight42 on Monday November 13, 2023 @12:01PM (#38252365)
Perhaps Ruby isn't for you then?

Matz's intent was and has been to bring joy and delight to developers, with the odd combination of PERL, LISP, and Smalltalk as his inspirations. Joy and delight don't necessarily equate with "most practical". But joy and delight are wonderful and healthful qualities to cultivate for a good life!

_why embodied much of the spirit of the (at least earlier) Ruby community. We were software developer immigrants, many coming from prescriptive verbose technologies (I'm looking at you, Java!). We were eager for novel ways of expressing our ideas. Ruby's metaprogramming capabilities are, as far as I know, still all but unmatched beyond perhaps Smalltalk itself (and IO, which AFAIK no one uses seriously). _why's playfulness captured all of this in elegant and sometimes bizarre but often artistic expressions in his projects and code.

I will never regret or apologize for the Ruby community's appreciation for the Poignant Guide.

And, _why, wherever you are and whoever you are, thanks.

Re:Ruby on Rails: The Documentary [video] by vario on Monday November 13, 2023 @12:19PM (#38252611)
Typical deficit in reading comprehension is the hallmark of the mediocre mind.
Re:Ruby on Rails: The Documentary [video] by lagniappe on Monday November 13, 2023 @12:22PM (#38252646)
> Typical deficit in reading comprehension is the hallmark of the mediocre mind.

Are you insulting the person who responded to your comment?

Re:Ruby on Rails: The Documentary [video] by qup on Monday November 13, 2023 @02:20PM (#38254056)
only if he's multi accounting
Re:Ruby on Rails: The Documentary [video] by vario on Monday November 13, 2023 @09:27PM (#38258214)
Interpretation depends on the reader. Was I insulting anyone or was I making a general statement? It can go both ways. If you read my original comment, I expressed dis-preference for why_'s book, which is responsible for my not learning Ruby for a long long time. People like these take something good and make a joke out of it. My original comment points to this--not at all about Matz and Ruby--both of which I like. Yet, the person responding to my comment, without reading my comment carefully or understanding it, twisted my comment into saying 'perhaps you don't like Ruby' by saying the passive aggressive 'Ruby is not for you' which is a tacit insult (meaning, I am too stupid to get it). Do you see now how it escalated because the other person condescended?
Re:Ruby on Rails: The Documentary [video] by vario on Monday November 13, 2023 @09:22PM (#38258166)
Read his comment very carefully and you will see that I have merely returned the favor :)
Re:Ruby on Rails: The Documentary [video] by sleight42 on Monday November 13, 2023 @12:28PM (#38252713)
I'm sorry you feel that way.

Sure, Ruby is for anyone who wants to use it.

Re:Ruby on Rails: The Documentary [video] by vario on Monday November 13, 2023 @09:23PM (#38258174)
Once again, let me spell it for you. I haev no problem with Ruby. I just did not like why_'s bullshit. Make sense to you now? I respect Matz and his achievements.
Re:Ruby on Rails: The Documentary [video] by dividedbyzero on Monday November 13, 2023 @06:34PM (#38256824)
I absolutely loved _why's guide, not the least because it made certain very serious, over the top professional people very uncomfortable. Bullshit in the guise of Very Serious Business Software Engineering is still bullshit, but if you present something like it's a big joke to you, and it still shines, there probably is something to it. I feel a lot of present-day IT wouldn't pass that test.
Re:Ruby on Rails: The Documentary [video] by vario on Monday November 13, 2023 @09:33PM (#38258255)
Well, my opinion is, he took something elegant and sublime and dressed it up in bullshit; there's nothing wrong with being playful and fun--as I mentioned earlier, Whittaker's "C#, Player's Guide" is the ONLY programming book that presented serious stuff in a fun way without clowning.
Re:Ruby on Rails: The Documentary [video] by Deradon on Monday November 13, 2023 @12:30PM (#38252735)
There was not really a place to put it into the rails doc. But I put a comic strip as a tribute to _why into a related blog post: https://cult.honeypot.io/reads/why-ruby-on-rails-is-not-dead...