Re:Bangladesh removed lead from turmeric spice
by orwin on Monday November 13, 2023 @06:41AM
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It's sadly a bit worse than religious nationalism.
It's start with that common religious nationalist myth:
'We are the best/greatest in the world, because god made us So (baked just right).'
Then continue with a that bit that separate Cesarism (and Stalinisme) from Bonapartism and it's cousins:
'But we aren't the greatest country in the world, we aren't at our rightful place: ahead of our ennemies'.
Then you have different follow-up. A Maoist 'we should improve and work hard, especially you, to make up for it', Or a more fascist/whiny approach 'its because of those pesky I internal traitors (usually Jews, sometimes communists, it seems to be Muslims in India currently)'.
The issue is that India nationalism is moving from a somehow Maoist mythos (except with more competent leadership, which isn't hard tbh) to a victim hood, whiney myth that imho lead to at best reactionary thinking, at worst fascism (I don't think they're there at all, I don't think they can their society is too much... Indian? to be really fascist, but I can see castes becoming a real thing again.)
In general, I think nationalism is like being proud of something you don't control and don't have any impact on, so a bit dumb, but Human. I'm OK with it, mostly. But add paranoid victimhood to nationalism and you have the dumbest ideology in the world.
It's start with that common religious nationalist myth:
'We are the best/greatest in the world, because god made us So (baked just right).'
Then continue with a that bit that separate Cesarism (and Stalinisme) from Bonapartism and it's cousins:
'But we aren't the greatest country in the world, we aren't at our rightful place: ahead of our ennemies'.
Then you have different follow-up. A Maoist 'we should improve and work hard, especially you, to make up for it', Or a more fascist/whiny approach 'its because of those pesky I internal traitors (usually Jews, sometimes communists, it seems to be Muslims in India currently)'.
The issue is that India nationalism is moving from a somehow Maoist mythos (except with more competent leadership, which isn't hard tbh) to a victim hood, whiney myth that imho lead to at best reactionary thinking, at worst fascism (I don't think they're there at all, I don't think they can their society is too much... Indian? to be really fascist, but I can see castes becoming a real thing again.)
In general, I think nationalism is like being proud of something you don't control and don't have any impact on, so a bit dumb, but Human. I'm OK with it, mostly. But add paranoid victimhood to nationalism and you have the dumbest ideology in the world.