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Re:Google pulls Fitbit from almost 30 markets by lmm on Monday November 13, 2023 @12:46AM (#38247373)
Sony still makes top-end phones with headphone jacks, SD card slots, and a camera that doesn't mangle your photos unless you ask it to. The Xperia line is pretty much the perfect phone for the HN crowd.
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Re:Google pulls Fitbit from almost 30 markets by CSMastermind on Monday November 13, 2023 @01:13AM (#38247497)
Oh very cool, I wish I knew about them when I got my current phone (Galaxy S23 Ultra). I would have been much happier, will definitely keep them in mind next time I'm in the market for a new phone.
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Re:Google pulls Fitbit from almost 30 markets by wisenull on Monday November 13, 2023 @08:04AM (#38249663)
I also have the same phone because the Sony flagship would be more expensive. It might be worth it for the added features though.
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Re:Google pulls Fitbit from almost 30 markets by matheusmoreira on Monday November 13, 2023 @12:56AM (#38247436)
Those phones don't have the hardware security features found on Pixels.
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Re:Google pulls Fitbit from almost 30 markets by lmm on Monday November 13, 2023 @12:59AM (#38247445)
What features are those and would HN types even want them?
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Re:Google pulls Fitbit from almost 30 markets by matheusmoreira on Monday November 13, 2023 @01:34AM (#38247588)
> would HN types even want them?

I bought a Pixel just for GrapheneOS. Can't speak for anyone else.

> What features are those

There's a rather exhaustive list here:

https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices

Some that stand out to me:

> Hardware memory tagging

> Isolated radios (cellular, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, NFC, etc.), GPU, SSD, media encode / decode, image processor and other components

> Weaver disk encryption key derivation throttling provided by secure element

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Re:Google pulls Fitbit from almost 30 markets by lmm on Monday November 13, 2023 @02:03AM (#38247730)
> Hardware memory tagging

Sounds like that's a feature in any ARMv9 processor, which would include current Xperias?

What you've linked is a long list but a lot of the items in it are underspecified and hard to search for. Would be good to be able to know what all these features actually do and why they do or don't exist in other models.

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Re:Google pulls Fitbit from almost 30 markets by matheusmoreira on Monday November 13, 2023 @05:28AM (#38248787)
Google claims the Pixel 8 is the first handset with that feature.

https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2023/11/first-handset...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38125379

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