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Re:Americans need a six-figure salary to afford a new home i... by scruple on Saturday November 11, 2023 @09:54AM (#38230786)
I can walk to 3 grocery stores (and these are on shopping centers with a few dozen restaurants and other stores, Target, Walmart, etc... theoretically everything I need) in under 15 minutes from my front door in Orange county, California, next door to Irvine, the birth place of modern suburbia. You have a point but you need to get rid of the hyperbole.
Re:Americans need a six-figure salary to afford a new home i... by mint2 on Sunday November 12, 2023 @11:34AM (#38241643)
Okay but to many people Irvine is a sterile wasteland. And that’s one of the mode suburbs?!

It feels like living in a corporate office park. And no, it’s predominantly not walking friendly. Not only is is massively spread out, the roads one has to walk next to are all 4-6 lanes wide and have freeway like speed limits. It’s unpleasant to walk a mile with that traffic noise and bland invariant office park landscaping.

Some people are okay with that setting, other do find it a soul sucking sterile place. I live there a number of years for a job, was ecstatic to move away. Should have done it sooner.

And that place is a super nice upscale suburb, like the one all suburbs aspire to be. and yet this paragon of suburbs is awful.

I didn’t even get into how bad ecologically the office park landscaping is. I haven’t scratched the surface of the many ways suburbs like Irvine are intrinsically bad. I do find most people who enjoy the place are tend not question the why of things or ask questions about their defaults.