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Re:Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it by xw3090 on Friday November 10, 2023 @12:06PM (#38221366)
> computers marketed as "Pro" devices

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

Which is the problem in a nutshell. No one knows what it means.

The parent worked as a dev for a year with the machine and was happy with it. I am also a dev, and am still on a M1 8gb Air that I got in early 2021, and I'm very happy with it. Probably the best laptop I've ever had the pleasure to work on.

For my workload, I don't think the difference between a 8gb and 16gb machine would be measurable. Some people really would prefer the $200.

Re:Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it by layer8 on Friday November 10, 2023 @02:32PM (#38223411)
I think it’s pretty clear that Pro Max stands for profit maximization. ;)
Re:Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it by pentae on Friday November 10, 2023 @09:11PM (#38226977)
https://youtu.be/hmWPd7uEYEY

So watch that and tell me again why you think the difference ‘isn’t measurable’

Re:Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it by nickpp on Saturday November 11, 2023 @04:11AM (#38228685)
In that video, it looks like the 8gb starts swapping when running blender and processing photos Lightroom?! Those are the very definition of tasks requiring a memory upgrade, IMHO. The 8gb model is meant for web browsing, communication, watching YouTube or Netflix and the such. Light computer work.

Don’t get stuck on the Pro monitor, real Professionals simply buy more memory because they know they need it and they should be able to afford it. Apple offers the 8gb models for regular folk with light computing needs who like a nicer machine, be it called Air or Pro.

Re:Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it by isleyaardvark on Saturday November 11, 2023 @08:05AM (#38229980)
Like others here I am a dev, I'm fine with 8Gb. I skimmed through the video and the measurable slowdown was in image intensive apps like Lightroom and Blender. Why exactly should I be subsidizing those users?
Re:Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it by pentae on Saturday November 11, 2023 @12:43PM (#38232516)
This is the problem with skipping through things like this - you missed the part about real world chrome performance. It’s okay to be happy with 8gb, but it doesn’t mean you are right. Ignorance may be bliss but try not to spread it
Re:Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it by isleyaardvark on Saturday November 11, 2023 @04:06PM (#38234524)
You know, instead of being rude and berating someone who makes a good faith effort to watch an 11 minute video to try and find your argument, you should instead just go ahead and just make your argument. I don't know why you'd expect me to spend my time trying to find a needle in your haystack.
Re:Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it by seec on Sunday November 12, 2023 @12:50PM (#38242446)
You are the one arguing in bad faith to satisfy the cognitive dissonance created by being scammed buying a computer at way too high price considering its real-world performance in the configuration you got.

If anything, you are the one who really needs to prove why he feels the need to defend the indefensible commercial choices of an extremely rich company.

At best you are like a weirdo using short in 5°C winter and telling everyone it is fine and do not understand why everyone is telling him he is crazy and that must be uncomfortable. At worst you are the used car salesman minimizing every single problem the car he is selling to keep the price high.

In any case, your behavior is not normal nor commendable, you shouldn't be the one requesting better behavior from other people...

Re:Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it by postalrat on Sunday November 12, 2023 @08:48AM (#38240031)
Don't you use docker or build tools? Those are what use of all the memory on my computer.