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Re:Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it by stephenr on Friday November 10, 2023 @02:12AM (#38216042)
> They're more likely to buy a budget laptop in the 400-500 range

I'd imagine the TCO on those bargain basement laptops is terrible, so I doubt they're really a big sell for corporate buyers.

Re:Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it by benterix on Friday November 10, 2023 @07:23AM (#38218006)
Not necessarily - it depends how easily you can upgrade off-the shelf NVMs and RAM, and how much RAM its motherboard supports.
Re:Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it by stephenr on Friday November 10, 2023 @08:50AM (#38218760)
(A) the actual purchase cost for memory, whether its $200 or $20 is essentially irrelevant when it comes to TCO.

(B) In my experience corporate machines simply aren't upgraded. You get enough for the job when you order it. If you need more, you get a new machine and the old one is repurposed or retired if it's remaining usable life is short.

Re:Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it by ghaff on Friday November 10, 2023 @10:16AM (#38219869)
>In my experience corporate machines simply aren't upgraded.

Yeah. It would basically be insane for a company for nickel and dime laptop purchases and then pay an IT person to do bespoke upgrades. Like a lot of things that may seem sensible on a personal level where labor is cheap/free, they don't make sense when you're paying someone $50+ an hour to do them.

Re:Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it by benterix on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @06:56AM (#38275764)
Yes, you are completely right. In my experience though, the machines do get upgrades if someone insists, and the tech department prefers the easiest possible way.

I remember in a n org I worked a few years ago we got new laptops with SSDs instead of HDDs. Everybody was happy except the people who worked with a lot of data as the first SSDs were very small like 128 GB (still the amount of disk space you would get in an entry-level MBP 2019 I think). So we asked for an upgrade and they replaced our SSDs rather than replacing whole laptops. But I'm sure it's place-dependent.

Re:Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it by staringback on Friday November 10, 2023 @10:10AM (#38219782)
$299 Inspirons these days come with NVMe storage and 6 core Intel CPUs
Re:Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it by wlesieutre on Friday November 10, 2023 @10:15AM (#38219852)
Still the 1366x768 displays that they were using 10 years ago?
Re:Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it by jsight on Friday November 10, 2023 @10:36AM (#38220154)
Just a quick glance at the dell website shows me an Inspiron 15 w/ 8GB RAM, and a 256GB nvme for $279. I'm sure the panel isn't great, but it is 1080p.

It is an i3, but still... this is $279! Do some bargain hunting and you can find some pretty decent machines for <$500 now.

Re:Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it by staringback on Friday November 10, 2023 @11:20AM (#38220722)
That 'i3' runs circles around i7 laptop CPUs from just a couple of years ago
Re:Apple has a memory problem and we're all paying for it by stephenr on Friday November 10, 2023 @12:08PM (#38221400)
You do know what the "T" in "TCO" stands for right? Hint: it's not the price you paid for the hardware upfront.