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Re:We Need a Revolution by Raidion on Thursday November 09, 2023 @10:28AM (#38206212)
But phones without user replaceable batteries have advantages like water resistance, size, weight, etc.

If you mandate everything has to have replaceable batteries, you restrict the ability for consumers to choose devices that prioritize other things.

Only logic that I would say could be used is an environmental concern, but you'd need to really show that replaceable batteries would lead to significant improvements in the amount of e-waste we generate. If everything has a replaceable battery, but only a few people take advantage of it and the average lifetime of a phone remains constant-ish, it's really not valuable.

I think the replaceable battery thing is very much a HN bubble issue. It's not like there aren't phones with them. If more people wanted them, more people would sell them, but most people prefer the additional battery life, increased water resistance, and thinness of modern phones.

Re:We Need a Revolution by naasking on Thursday November 09, 2023 @10:49AM (#38206511)
Other niche features like water resistance can be achieved other ways, like suitable cases or removable sealing compounds along seams. Engineers are clever, they solve problems the simplest way possible within a given set of constraints. Changing those constraints won't change the possibility of achieving similar outcomes.

> If more people wanted them, more people would sell them, but most people prefer the additional battery life, increased water resistance, and thinness of modern phones.

You're overstating the preferences and availability of alternatives here. All the best engineering talent went towards sexiness hype cycles, little went into making phones with that were more eco friendly.

Lots of people also liked Tho-Radia, a radioactive cosmetic from almost 100 years ago. That's not a justification for permitting it.

Re:We Need a Revolution by TheCleric on Thursday November 09, 2023 @03:31PM (#38210802)
> Other niche features like water resistance

For myself, and nearly everyone I know, water resistance is a must have and battery replacement is the "niche feature". I've lost WAY more phones due to water related accidents than I have to bad batteries.

Re:We Need a Revolution by naasking on Friday November 10, 2023 @07:50AM (#38218201)
If phones were more repairable, then water wouldn't destroy the whole phone and you'd maybe just have to buy a new battery.
Re:We Need a Revolution by thatcat on Sunday November 12, 2023 @08:57AM (#38240099)
There were mil spec phones 15 years ago that had removable batteries and were completely waterproof