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Re:I'm calling from Israeli intelligence. We have orders to ... by goatsneez on Thursday November 09, 2023 @06:10AM (#38203546)
The truth of the matter; there is no reasoning under which such a call can be considered as a "moral" or civilized. The motivation behind is not humanitarian, on the contrary it is pure terrorism in all-encomassig meaning of the word. If you doubt that, put your-self in the situation, right now as you sit wherever, receiving this call.

Another poster asked a question: Would you prefer that they dont call? I reject this frame of reference all-together as a valid one. So far, 10k people as per UN data ~70% of them children (and there are innocent men as well, which puts as per UN estimate >90% of casualties as pure non-combatants) and women have been massacred in openly admitted and self-proclaimed extermination process, and they received no such call. Nay, they actually are actively being starved and do not even have electricity for weeks now to even being able to take the call.

Therefore, if such call is made or are made, they are exception. Most people did not receive it before being murdered. Hence, its nature is not humanitarian but the contrary, calculated terror. Any sane human not consumed by ethnic or racial hatred (for which I have not need to comment) cannot accept this argument as moral. That BBC runs this an a tone and implied morals is despicable.

Re:I'm calling from Israeli intelligence. We have orders to ... by raxxorraxor on Thursday November 09, 2023 @07:52AM (#38204362)
It isn't a humanitarian mission, it is urban warfare in a defensive war by Israel. It isn't much and pretty cynical to call in a bombing, but better than nothing and there is considerable risk too as the announcement could warn enemy troops.
Re:I'm calling from Israeli intelligence. We have orders to ... by hypeit on Thursday November 09, 2023 @11:39AM (#38207258)
I think you need to read up on Nakba. Israel is the invading force since 1948.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

Re:I'm calling from Israeli intelligence. We have orders to ... by raxxorraxor on Friday November 10, 2023 @02:39AM (#38216199)
I did read up on it, did you read out about the plans of al-Husseini before it? The subjugation of Jews and the planned holocaust of the middle east?
Re:I'm calling from Israeli intelligence. We have orders to ... by compsciphd on Tuesday November 14, 2023 @03:35PM (#38269350)
Palestinian nationalism was attempting to genocide and ethnically cleanse the jews in the land way before 1948.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_political_violence

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"The Arabs realized that the Jewish community, due to their lower numbers, was vulnerable to attrition and less able to take casualties. Therefore, they adopted a "war of attrition" tactic which was advantageous to the more numerous Arab community.[36]"

"For instance, in April 1920 about 216 Jews became casualties (killed or wounded) during a single day in Jerusalem. By May 1921, the casualty rate for Jews was approaching 40 per day and in August 1929 it had risen to 80 per day"

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Only focusing on 1948 means one condones the attempted genocide that occurred. There will only be peace once the palestinian people and those that support them acknowledge that they attempted genocide and ethnic cleansing.

I'm not going to justify Israel's actions, even though I do think they are justified, though I can understand why others might disagree. I will however strongly argue that those that focus on what they call the Nakba without any acknowledgment of the attempted genocide that preceded it are people who have no problem with genociding and ethnically cleansing jews.

Re:I'm calling from Israeli intelligence. We have orders to ... by enterprise_cog on Thursday November 09, 2023 @07:19PM (#38213263)
Nothing about this massacre is defensive. To even say such a thing is farcical. You don’t kill thousands of children in a defensive war.

It’s a war of terror. Full stop.

Re:I'm calling from Israeli intelligence. We have orders to ... by raxxorraxor on Friday November 10, 2023 @02:38AM (#38216190)
War of terror is what Israel would be subjected to if they didn't intervene and destroy the infrastructure that allows for thousands of rockets to be aimed at it. Without the iron dome, there would be countless dead.
Re:I'm calling from Israeli intelligence. We have orders to ... by enterprise_cog on Friday November 10, 2023 @01:22PM (#38222479)
Ah yes, the hypothetical menace justifies the actual terror.

Also those rockets barely do damage. “Countless dead” is hyperbole. And destroying hospitals, bombing civilians, and murdering journalists doesn’t stop the rockets.

Miss me with your Hasbara talking points, thanks.