Are we doing this again? Yes, we're doing this again

Re:Are we doing this again? Yes, we're doing this again by nonmo on Thursday November 09, 2023 @05:31AM (#38203270)

> Force technology companies to inform the Home Office in advance of security and privacy features they want to add, including encryption, and force them to disable features which the government objects to

This sounds fine to me. The signals intelligence agencies don't want to be blindsided by changes that will hamper their work. Private industry needs to be willing to co-operate for the benefit of everyone, not just their bottom line.

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Re:Are we doing this again? Yes, we're doing this again by sandworm101 on Thursday November 09, 2023 @05:33AM (#38203284)

And when a company wants to patch a zero-day exploit being used by criminals to scam customers? What if that impacts the government's surveillance activities?

And what of free/open source software? Does every linux update now need mi6 vetting? Or will we just trust His Majesty's to be nice and not do evil things to us?

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Re:Are we doing this again? Yes, we're doing this again by nonmo on Thursday November 09, 2023 @05:45AM (#38203348)

Patching an 0-day isn't the same thing as adding a new privacy or security feature.

Linux is different because anyone can very clearly see the roadmap for features by following the LKML.

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Re:Are we doing this again? Yes, we're doing this again by pjc50 on Thursday November 09, 2023 @06:11AM (#38203559)

> Patching an 0-day isn't the same thing as adding a new privacy or security feature

You think that, but where is that written?

> Linux is different because anyone can very clearly see the roadmap for features by following the LKML.

If there's a requirement to inform the HO, posting on LKML is not going to meet that. Also the HO may start vetoing Linux changes.

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Re:Are we doing this again? Yes, we're doing this again by nonmo on Friday November 10, 2023 @10:15AM (#38219851)

It's common knowledge. Literally no-one working in this field considers patching a buffer overrun or use-after-free or whatever to be the same as adding a security feature.

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Re:Are we doing this again? Yes, we're doing this again by renegat0x0 on Thursday November 09, 2023 @05:38AM (#38203304)

Edward Snowden showed that they are not surveilling only because of 'child abuse', but to exert power and control. Why should I help them? Why should anyone help them?

.... but think of the children they scream.

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Re:Are we doing this again? Yes, we're doing this again by nonmo on Thursday November 09, 2023 @05:45AM (#38203353)

Did you reply to the wrong comment? I didn't mention child abuse.

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Re:Are we doing this again? Yes, we're doing this again by rangestransform on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @10:53AM (#38278039)

private industry should belligerently protect customer privacy, even against the wishes of the surveillance state, rugpulling as hard as necessary

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