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Re:Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door ... by godelski on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @06:22PM (#38198700)
I also find a bit of irony given how much fraud there is on Amazon's own website. There's got to be far cheaper solutions that result in far higher revenues. Of course Chamberlain doesn't have access to this revenue stream, but I'm sure there are other things that they can do like charging for an API key or better yet, charging Amazon for an enterprise token (which users can disable!). Since it seems they're willing to take on the security risks... because the current solution clearly doesn't actually resolve the issue. I can't imagine anyone that understands how to use HA wouldn't understand how to use ratgdo so I'm not sure they're realistically changing revenue outcomes.

About Amazon, how fucking hard is it to use a fucking Naive Bayes classifier to just check if product title or description changes significantly? Hell, do it with Babbage or some other (not L)LM that's cheap as fuck. We already have clear leaks showing that they fuck over sellers with their price lockins, are you really hurting them more by dropping all those product reviews? You can also do way better by using an image classifier. I have a hard time believing a company that's bragging about how many robots it uses in its warehouses and replaces shitty support with even shittier LLMs is not going to actually result in higher profits by doing this. A few returns probably covers the cost because shipping is expensive (something they already don't get right. Haven't had 2 day prime delivered in 2 days since 2018...)

Also, anyone else find it weird that stores on Amazon don't list all their products? Like you can click on the store page from the product and then that product is nowhere to be found. Want to reduce scams? Force the listing of their entire product directory. I already can't rely on reviews, you just are making it harder to trust you.

I really do wish there was a halfway decent alternative to Amazon. Even Target and Walmart's online stores are more attractive, just limited. But this seems to be a generally sucky space and I don't understand why. Don't even get me started on NewEgg...

> Money is one hell of a drug because they are high.

They're so high they're even turning down higher profits. But I guess the issue is caring FAR more about short term profits (quarterly statements) than long term (hell, even a fucking year). I really don't get this metric hacking bullshit bureaucracy we've built (and its not just isolated to the US or the West).

Re:Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door ... by ethbr1 on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @06:41PM (#38198872)
> But [online retail] seems to be a generally sucky space and I don't understand why.

Because the margins are incredibly low (thanks, Walmart and Amazon?), which means you need capital-heavy hyperefficient warehousing/distribution to even compete, which means you need scale, which means there's little competition to make things better.

Re:Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door ... by godelski on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @08:25PM (#38199726)
Oh I 100% agree. Natural monopolies are real things, and things I wish we would discuss a bit more seriously. Especially with their growing prevalence in the modern age. We still seem to be caught up in this dream that small startups can displace giants in every market. But you can't in things like online marketplaces, social media, ISPs, insurance (of any form), cell phones, streaming services, etc. Because when the product is the network, natural monopolies are going to rise and you can't really go around monopoly busting without just destroying the product itself. We've used monopolies in the past (e.g. AT&T gave us Bell Labs due to this deal), but we don't seem to take this seriously anymore and idk if we just don't have the energy or attention span to get even a little bit nuanced (which to be fair, we're often arguing before we can even introduce nuance despite that being needed to not fight). I mean to me it even seems like politics get shittier with scale due to natural monopolies (I don't want to hear how Europe has "multiple parties" they still only have 2 coalitions which is what US parties are actually closer to).
Re:Home Assistant blocked from integrating with Garage Door ... by ethbr1 on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @09:17PM (#38200216)
I'd love to see logistics shorn off from point of sale.

I think there'd be a lot of room for innovation if you turned Amazon/Walmart/Home Depot's logistics into their own companies, then allowed people to put whatever between that and the customer that they wanted to.

Which is essentially what Amazon does now... the only difference is they get to control that link and the revenue flow from it.

Segregating market functions forevermore would go a long way towards returning competition to marketplaces, imho. (E.g. logistics|retail, advertising|everything, etc.)