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Re:After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fir... by garciasn on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @03:31PM (#38196517)
Yet. You don't see ads, yet.

But, what you are doing, is selling your viewing history to marketers, albeit indirectly. For that $20 box, you are giving away everything you watch, when you watch, and very likely anything that goes through that box.

That said, you might be 100% ok w/that for the price and that's ok. But, you should go in eyes open about what these lower-cost pieces of hardware are doing to 'permit' you to pay less than they cost from competitors who may or may not be doing the same thing.

Re:After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fir... by silisili on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @03:48PM (#38196730)
I wouldn't say I'm 100% OK with it, more just accepted it. I don't think there's any real way around it with a streaming lifestyle. The streaming device wants data, the services want data. Even my TV I believe asked if it can view what's on the screen.

Even if I had a dumb TV, and a secure trustworthy streaming box, the services themselves(Netflix et al) are collecting the same data, no?

Re:After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fir... by i_am_jl on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @04:03PM (#38196958)
>Even if I had a dumb TV, and a secure trustworthy streaming box, the services themselves(Netflix et al) are collecting the same data, no?

Collecting, yes, but not selling. ONN explicitly says they do so in their privacy policy.

https://onntvsupport.com/privacy-policy

>We may disclose “blinded” aggregated data and user statistics to prospective partners and other third parties. Blinded data is data that does not identify an individual person.

Re:After luring customers with low prices, Amazon stuffs Fir... by silisili on Wednesday November 08, 2023 @04:24PM (#38197272)
It's a pretty blurry line between sharing and selling, and if it's not, these companies should really make their privacy policies more clear.

Netflix says - https://help.netflix.com/legal/privacy

We may share information collected from or about you with Advertisers and/or Ad Measurement Companies to select advertisements, and measure and improve advertising effectiveness. As a reminder, please see the Information from Other Sources section above if you have questions regarding the role of Advertisers or Ad Measurement Companies.

Hulu says - https://press.hulu.com/privacy-policy

We may share information collected from or about you with third parties as explained further below, including business partners, social networking services, service providers, advertisers, and other companies that are not affiliated with Hulu.