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Re:Teflon is still toxic to birds by Tade0 on Sunday November 05, 2023 @11:28AM (#38152575)
I received a granite pan recently and I can't recommend it enough.

It doesn't stick and contains no teflon or any other such material.

Re:Teflon is still toxic to birds by almostdigital on Sunday November 05, 2023 @11:41AM (#38152730)
I thought those pans that are marketed as "granite" with a speckled pattern where just PTFE coated aluminium, is this something different?
Re:Teflon is still toxic to birds by namdnay on Sunday November 05, 2023 @11:43AM (#38152755)
I think “granite pans” (which aren’t) are basically enamel, like a Le Creuset
Re:Teflon is still toxic to birds by 542458 on Sunday November 05, 2023 @12:03PM (#38152993)
I’m assuming this is one of those enamel/ceramic non-stick pans. I’ve used a number of these over the years. They’re great for “non-stick that isn’t teflon” (I have a bird, so that is useful to me), but they do degrade very fast if you’re not extremely careful, and even if you are careful they still usually only last a short while before becoming significantly less non-stick. I’d recommend saving them for eggs and other very sticky foods, and using cast iron or stainless or carbon steel for everything else.
Re:Teflon is still toxic to birds by amluto on Sunday November 05, 2023 @12:37PM (#38153384)
I’ve never heard of an actual granite pan. You surely mean a metal pan coated with a combination of silicone-ish things and silica, and maybe the silica is derived from granite.

Sadly, it seems that some of these things still contain potentially nasty highly fluorinated compounds. Here’s a patent for such a thing:

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/6d/25/ca/9ff2bbd...

Hmm, the “FAS” additive in the outermost layer has a perfluorinated C6 chain. Whoops. I wonder whether this is better or worse than PTFE. At least intact PTFE ought to be harmless. PFHxA is not so wonderful:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfluorohexanoic_acid