Re:Post Mortem on Cloudflare Control Plane and Analytics Outage
by ecs78 on Saturday November 04, 2023 @11:58AM
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They are a younger company than these other providers. Microsoft, Google, and AWS had their own growth pains and disasters. Remember when Microsoft deleted all the data (contacts, photos, etc) off all their customers Danger phones by accident and had no backup. Talk about naming their product a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Re:Post Mortem on Cloudflare Control Plane and Analytics Outage
by dastbe on Saturday November 04, 2023 @02:07PM
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they are 14 years old at this point. aws has what, four years on them?
Re:Post Mortem on Cloudflare Control Plane and Analytics Outage
by sophacles on Sunday November 05, 2023 @01:20AM
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AWS was the public release of tooling that amazon had been bulding for almost 20 years at that point.
Similar story for GCP.
All three of them had decades of institutional knowledge and procedures in place around running big services by the time Cloudflare was founded.
Re:Post Mortem on Cloudflare Control Plane and Analytics Outage
by jsnell on Sunday November 05, 2023 @02:36AM
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No they didn't. Amazon was 12 years old when AWS launched. Google was 10 years old when GCP launched.
Re:Post Mortem on Cloudflare Control Plane and Analytics Outage
by dastbe on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:08AM
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> AWS was the public release of tooling that amazon had been bulding for almost 20 years at that point.
No, even at the onset AWS was an entirely-from-the-ground-up build. The only thing it could even be argued to sit on top of was the extremely crufty VMs and physical loadbalancers from the original Prod at that point, and those things were not doing anybody any favors.
Re:Post Mortem on Cloudflare Control Plane and Analytics Outage
by schleck8 on Saturday November 04, 2023 @02:07PM
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Cloudflare is fourteen years old
Re:Post Mortem on Cloudflare Control Plane and Analytics Outage
by isbvhodnvemrwvn on Saturday November 04, 2023 @02:48PM
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Cloudflare is 14 years old and Cloudflare Stream, the "newer services they didn't have time to make HA" is 6 years old today.
The issue is when you start having bad days every other day though. We use and depend on CloudFlare Images heavily, it has now been down more than 67 hours over the last 30 days (22h on October 9th, 42h Nov 2 - Nov 4 and a sprinkle of ~hour long outages in between). That's 90.6% availability over the last month.
Transparency is a great differentiator between providers that are fighting in the 99.9% availability range, but when you are hanging on for dear life to stay above the one 9 availability, it doesn't matter.