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Re:Gaza running out of time UN experts warn, demand ceasefir... by ecmascript on Friday November 03, 2023 @11:05AM (#38129893)
Your comment is a great point of mine. You think burning babies alive, slitting their throats, killing elderly, kidnapping and torturing civilians etc etc is alright because "they stole land" which is simply not really the case.

Comments like yours is exactly why I support Israel. You have a horrible world view if you think terror organisations are a legitimate resistance.

Re:Gaza running out of time UN experts warn, demand ceasefir... by kiwikan on Friday November 03, 2023 @11:32AM (#38130330)
Zionist militias like Irgun and Lehi who were founded in the 40s literally described themselves as Terorrist, and explicitly communicated that jews are the "master race" and that Arabs are a "slave race"
Re:Gaza running out of time UN experts warn, demand ceasefir... by misterbishop on Friday November 03, 2023 @11:20AM (#38130140)
The problem is you only see "terrorism" on the side you already oppose. You don't see terrorism in the erection of a separation wall and 15 years of military bombardment. That's why you're morally depraved.
Re:Gaza running out of time UN experts warn, demand ceasefir... by megous on Friday November 03, 2023 @01:08PM (#38131718)
Israel is no stranger to doing exact same things to Palestinians at much grander scale for decades. So, your point is? That it's good to do such things if you're the oppressor with more capabilities?

It's a conflict stemming from a violent state building project devised and implemented by Zionists and supported for whatever geopolitical reasons by world powers.

And the project is ongoing. Should Palestinians just take it? All one needs to do to see how shitty and unacceptable such project may look to the oppressed people of Gaza and West Bank is to look up and read through materials published by various Israeli human rights organizations, like:

Gisha: https://gisha.org/en/ - https://features.gisha.org/gaza-up-close/ B'Tselem: https://www.btselem.org/ HaMoked: https://hamoked.org/documents_topics.php?topic=Torture

Or look at some statistics of what childhood is like in Gaza: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7137754/table/T...

People are born into this and have to live under such oppression. Hard to blame them getting into resistance movements when they grow up. And all the talk about "legitimate" resistance from someone who supports the oppressor, and has no concept of living under oppression, is also rich. Especially when even such weak forms of "supporting" Palestinian cause as teaching about it in balanced way are vehemently opposed even with lawsuits and other intimidation of teachers and schools: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLKrZmw66M0&list=PLJpexbhqyn...

Re:Gaza running out of time UN experts warn, demand ceasefir... by xk_id on Friday November 03, 2023 @05:15PM (#38135109)
it's not hard at all to blame them for their sick behaviour. you just have an incorrect model of psychology. palestinians would have still been horrifyingly violent individuals, even if they lived happy and calm lives. you don't change into an animal, who cheers and spits on a naked corpse, because of hardship; that is either your nature, or not. and you don't stop being a monster just because you're happy.
Re:Gaza running out of time UN experts warn, demand ceasefir... by megous on Friday November 03, 2023 @05:52PM (#38135474)
You haven't seen any IDF abuse videos did you? Peeing on people they abduct, or on people they just killed, etc. Shitting into temporarily evacuated people's cooking utensils, out of spite, or whatever. Breaking bones of captured people as policy? Dragging someone tied behind a car in a dirt for fun? Using children as human shields to force them to check bags for suspected bombs? (at least this last thing was punished) Beating children taken to prisons? Just shooting children into knees and heads for fun/as policy.

Easy to find documentation of vile IDF/settler abuses online.

You can't judge a whole group of people by actions of individuals.

Israelis are not some chosen people immune from doing vile shit. So are not Palestinians.

This is not about nature of a group or whatever outdated racist bigotry you base your thinking on.

Re:Gaza running out of time UN experts warn, demand ceasefir... by megous on Friday November 03, 2023 @06:47PM (#38136082)
"On this channel you can find varied and colorful pictures of damned terrorists who received "treatment" from Tzhal after causing trouble to the people of Israel The beautiful angle of the soldiers in educating bloodthirsty animals with a little humor "

https://t.me/dead_terrorists

https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/17n576y/the_elec...

https://electronicintifada.net/content/israelis-filmed-abusi...

These kinds of people then go home, and are well adjusted.

Re:Gaza running out of time UN experts warn, demand ceasefir... by xk_id on Friday November 03, 2023 @09:01PM (#38136994)
Ok and? I never defended the zionists the way you are defending the palestinians.
Re:Gaza running out of time UN experts warn, demand ceasefir... by enterprise_cog on Friday November 03, 2023 @05:59PM (#38135570)
Whoops, your mask came off. You’ll want to take your racism elsewhere.
Re:Gaza running out of time UN experts warn, demand ceasefir... by xk_id on Friday November 03, 2023 @10:11PM (#38137438)
what mask? I would never conceal my disgust.
Re:Gaza running out of time UN experts warn, demand ceasefir... by enterprise_cog on Friday November 03, 2023 @10:15PM (#38137468)
Said while posting on an alt account.
Re:Gaza running out of time UN experts warn, demand ceasefir... by xk_id on Friday November 03, 2023 @11:18PM (#38137841)
not an alt.
Re:Gaza running out of time UN experts warn, demand ceasefir... by ecmascript on Friday November 03, 2023 @05:38PM (#38135326)
> Israel is no stranger to doing exact same things to Palestinians at much grander scale for decades.

Cmon man, stop with the bullshit already. Israel sends text messages to civilians before bombing a building terrorist targets are in and many other measures to do their utmost not to harm civilians.

Hamas on the other hand specifically targets civillians instead of military or strategic targets.

It's a huge difference and not the same thing. When you open with that shit I and any sane individual won't bother to listen to what else you may have to say regarding this matter because it's so ignorant and to be honest infuriating.

Re:Gaza running out of time UN experts warn, demand ceasefir... by megous on Friday November 03, 2023 @05:58PM (#38135552)
> Israel sends text messages to civilians before bombing a building terrorist targets are in and many other measures to do their utmost not to harm civilians.

And the reason for 10,000 bombed out people in less then a month then is? They just stayed because they wanted to be bombed?