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Re:Gaza running out of time UN experts warn, demand ceasefir... by ChumpGPT on Friday November 03, 2023 @10:31AM (#38129358)
It's complicated with a lot of folks caught in the middle. You have Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, etc wanting to genocide Israel and then you have Israel that gives no fucks.

What was the spark, Hamas very well knew they could not win, some say it was Russia/Iran that wanted a broader war where the Arab countries would join in knowing it would draw in the USA. This would certainly help Russian/Iranian interests right now with the War Russia is waging on Ukraine. I feel like it's all about weakening the West and causing discourse through out western society. The players like Russia, Iran, North Korea, China all want our Western world to fail.

Maybe we're due for another WW, it will play out the way it plays out I suppose.

Re:Gaza running out of time UN experts warn, demand ceasefir... by kiwikan on Friday November 03, 2023 @11:24AM (#38130189)
Israel is an ethno-nationalist settler colony with an apartheid system that oppresses Palestinians in every way possible[1], it has unconditional support from the west, and mostly importantly, unconditional support from the US. Hamas and Hezbollah didn't come out of a vacuum, Hezbollah and Hamas were founded back in 1985 and 1987 respectively, Israelis were killing Palestinians long before that, from the Deir Yassin massacre[2] to the Sabra and Shatila massacre[3] and many many more.

[1]: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-...

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre

[3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre

Re:Gaza running out of time UN experts warn, demand ceasefir... by megous on Friday November 03, 2023 @01:37PM (#38132211)
On the other hand, HAMAS and other resistance groups know that hostage swaps do work.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilad_Shalit_prisoner_exchange

They were too successful this time, though.

Israel can have a hostage swap any time it wants. The goverment gives priority to other goals, though.

Israel government probably doesn't want all those hostages back too soon, because it might undermine their war goals (many hostages are not Israelis, and many would talk to media, and might disrupt the messaging either via either a stockholm syndrome, or just by talking about what they lived through and seen during the Oct 7 attack). Also no hostages would mean one less reason for fighting Hamas, while destroying their own economy.

Re:Gaza running out of time UN experts warn, demand ceasefir... by throwawaysleep on Friday November 03, 2023 @01:45PM (#38132304)
Israel is realizing that hostage swaps just lead to the taking of more hostages.
Re:Gaza running out of time UN experts warn, demand ceasefir... by megous on Friday November 03, 2023 @06:03PM (#38135617)
Possible.