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Re:Born in a Bomb Shelter by efrank3 on Friday November 03, 2023 @07:55AM (#38127381)
imagine living under a terrorist organization that spent your bomb shelter money on antagonizing its militant neighbor
Re:Born in a Bomb Shelter by imadj on Friday November 03, 2023 @07:58AM (#38127405)
Are you trying to justify killing babies and wiping entire families, because their leaders attacked? WTF

That's more than barbaric

Re:Born in a Bomb Shelter by whearyou on Friday November 03, 2023 @08:04AM (#38127467)
No, he’s justifying killing the monsters who go out to murder and wipe out families, then put other families deliberately in the line of fire to try and get the opportunity to do it over again
Re:Born in a Bomb Shelter by imadj on Friday November 03, 2023 @08:35AM (#38127808)
So you just kill the entire neighborhood? Ok And after you killed thousands of kids and families because you're targeting the terrorists, what's the status right now? Did you wipe the terrorists? What is the "good" outcome?

This results of this barbaric strategy don't look good from any angle. Is there a problem with the intelligence? It's been a month I think

Re:Born in a Bomb Shelter by whearyou on Sunday November 05, 2023 @06:32AM (#38150204)
You do your best to kill as few people outside the terrorists as possible, accepting that because any military is not all-powerful and the terrorists are incentivized to and do put civilians in the line of fire, you will not get it 100% right and civilians will be killed unintentionally.

It's the least bad of a set of terrible options.

Re:Born in a Bomb Shelter by arkey on Monday November 06, 2023 @04:05AM (#38160268)
Not even that, he's just presenting the other side of the scenario, in a probably honest attempt to balance the perspective so one-sidedly presented by the flamewar, pre-digested parent comment.
Re:Born in a Bomb Shelter by andreiii on Friday November 03, 2023 @08:55AM (#38127986)
and what is your solution? stand back and wait for it to happen again?
Re:Born in a Bomb Shelter by imadj on Friday November 03, 2023 @09:18AM (#38128280)
No, punish the criminals only?
Re:Born in a Bomb Shelter by gryzzly on Friday November 03, 2023 @09:37AM (#38128552)
a thought exercise for you – two blood thirsty maniacs sit in a house, in which, possibly, several people reside. You have warned the people in this house, yesterday, that maybe the terrorists will come to use their house as a base and suggested a way out. In the hands of the maniacs is also a machine gun and they are shooting at a school full of other kids and successfully kill them one by one. Your only weapon is an RPG – should you blow up the terrorists?
Re:Born in a Bomb Shelter by imadj on Friday November 03, 2023 @10:29AM (#38129335)
We can already see the outcome on the ground, the response have led to more casualties than the maniacs ever did, and still failed at eradicating them.

Now the question, what would you do in this situation? When you find you've killed and caused more damage than the criminals. And worse, the criminals are still there.

If I was a police chief in that position, and a decent human being, I'd resign for failing to do my job and hand myself for prosecution for killing all these families for nothing.