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Re:Auto execs are coming clean: EVs aren't working by lm28469 on Friday November 03, 2023 @07:31AM (#38127186)
> pretty basic Kia Niro EV

At €45k you're far from "basic" imho. Not so long ago you were into the premium car category at that price in Europe. In 2010 you could buy a new bmw 335i for that price... or in 2012 two new basic (for real this time) peugeot 308

Re:Auto execs are coming clean: EVs aren't working by city41 on Friday November 03, 2023 @07:54AM (#38127367)
That was 13 years ago. A basic inflation calculator says $100 in 2010 would be $142 today.

Not sure about Europe but after the US tax credit on EVs our Niro cost about the same as say an Accord.

Re:Auto execs are coming clean: EVs aren't working by lm28469 on Friday November 03, 2023 @08:18AM (#38127597)
And how much have wages grown in the meantime ? About ~15% in Europe
Re:Auto execs are coming clean: EVs aren't working by city41 on Friday November 03, 2023 @09:28AM (#38128423)
This is starting to feel like another topic altogether. My original point is the Niro is not a luxury vehicle. It's really just a very average/typical vehicle they slapped an electric motor into. And roughly costing us about the same as a Honda Accord after the tax credit supports that. For as long as I can remember, the Accord was considered a "typical family car", at least in the US. Us being in late stage capitalism and suffering from massive inflation and income inequality is not really relevant to my point.
Re:Auto execs are coming clean: EVs aren't working by tomtheelder on Friday November 03, 2023 @05:39PM (#38135333)
It’s a very basic car. It’s expensive due to production scale reasons, not because it’s any sort of fancy vehicle.