Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t...
by carlosjobim on Friday November 03, 2023 @09:01AM
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I consider the definitions that have made this list to be commonly accepted, and if you read them, they make sense:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_definitions
Economic subjugation / destruction of economic life is mentioned in several of these definitions. For example that a young family is forced to go into life long debt in order to have their own home, or pay exorbitant rents.
Especially the first definition in the list is worth reading, because it dispels the myth that genocide needs to be immediate and brutal. It can also a long-term plan carried out by rulers to exterminate an ethnic group.
> yeah, because they furfilled at least 3 of the 5 definitions. You can easily argue all 5.
There is nobody today that would argue that natives in America weren't subjected to genocide.
I need to see your definition or consensus sample:
the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These five acts were:
- killing members of the group (nope)
- causing them serious bodily or mental harm (you can argue mental harm, but it's a huge stretch)
- imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group (living conditions are down, but it'd be disrespectul to compare my living to slavery or a concentration camp)
- preventing births (I guess this is your angle. But discouragement =/= prevention. My parents discouraging me from having a kid isn't genocide. Moreover, this is a decision mostly made on free will; you CAN still have a kid, but the costs of raising a kid are always present)
- forcibly transferring children out of the group (nope)
>Natives in America were historically the victims of genocide, because rulers and industry at the time decided it was too expensive to get them to labour effectively.
yeah, because they furfilled at least 3 of the 5 definitions. You can easily argue all 5. What's happening today is 2 very iffy arguments across a nation, with ways out of society in the worst cases.