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Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by pdonis on Thursday November 02, 2023 @07:06PM (#38121677)
> China, Iran, North Korea, Iran, US, Israel, Europe aren't bad actors.

Seriously? You don't think China, Iran, and North Korea are bad actors? What planet are you on?

Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by ta1243 on Friday November 03, 2023 @05:38AM (#38126395)
Well depends on your point of view

But I don't see China or North Korea firing nukes or even blowing up western buildings. They are limited by the threat of response.

A rogue wacko in his basement can make Kim Jong Un look like Theodore Roosevelt.

Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by pbronez on Friday November 03, 2023 @11:36AM (#38130395)
The term you’re looking for is “constrained” and “unconstrained” actors. The Chinese and North Korean governments are state level actors, constrained by their internal institutions and power dynamics. A rogue wacko is unconstrained - they do whatever they want with no limitations beyond their own mind and individual capabilities.

Examples:

In the Iran Hostage Crisis you had a constrained actor (Iranian government) making somewhat rational choices to use hostage taking as a negotiation tactic.

In the Oklahoma City Bombing, you had unconstrained actors (Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols) blowing up a building with a vehicle borne improvised explosive device for personal reasons.

Re:Joint Statement on AI Safety and Openness by PeterisP on Saturday November 04, 2023 @04:48PM (#38144980)
We do see North Korea, Russia and Iran funding cyberattacks (e.g. major ransomware operations) and supplying weapons to various external groups. If/when we get to a stage when a wacko in his basement possessing some AI tool could be dangerous, we can expect state-level bad actors to make and deliver such tools to any wacko they'll consider likely to use against the west i.e. us.