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Re:The business of extracting knowledge from academic public... by riku_iki on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @11:33PM (#38108674)
> People are being dismissive of your comments because to say that proteins are niche in the context of pharma is like saying advertising is niche in the context of Meta and Google.

its all about how you define word "niche", for google, main revenue stream is supported by several pillars: search tech, infra tech, ads tech, ecosystem+network effect, human management. You remove one pillar, and everything is destroyed, so one can say ads is one of the niches in their food chain. I suspect with proteins it is about the same.

> in the context of pharma

there is no context of pharma. Post is about more broad bio-medical publications.

Re:The business of extracting knowledge from academic public... by myownpetard on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @11:59PM (#38108852)
> Word of advice to all those who are chomping at the bit to disrupt pharma with AI.

Literally the first line in the comment that started this thread.

Re:The business of extracting knowledge from academic public... by riku_iki on Thursday November 02, 2023 @12:05AM (#38108870)
Sure, now let's read the post?
Re:The business of extracting knowledge from academic public... by dekhn on Thursday November 02, 2023 @11:20AM (#38114748)
I read the post before I made any criticism of your comments. We're talking on a thread within the larger context of comments on the post. But more importantly, if you read the post, you will see there is a theme of industrial biochemistry (IE, pharma and biotech) running through it, because pharma/biotech is the primary consumer of these products, and the vast majority of the revenue stream.
Re:The business of extracting knowledge from academic public... by riku_iki on Thursday November 02, 2023 @11:46AM (#38115167)
> there is a theme of industrial biochemistry

that's one of the themes (and you are already working hard to stretch drugs pharma to "biochemistry"), if you can't see other themes in his examples and screenshots, I think this discussion is not interesting to me.

Re:The business of extracting knowledge from academic public... by Kim_Bruning on Thursday November 02, 2023 @01:48AM (#38109429)
I'd say it's less like pillars and more like (emergence) layers, with proteins being a pretty important layer .

I'm now not entirely sure what your experience is with bio sciences. You're definitely coming at it from an odd angle though!

Re:The business of extracting knowledge from academic public... by riku_iki on Thursday November 02, 2023 @01:56AM (#38109479)
I didn't claim expertise, that's why I say "it looks like", "I suspect",
Re:The business of extracting knowledge from academic public... by Kim_Bruning on Thursday November 02, 2023 @02:05AM (#38109533)
Well, maybe find some time and dive in a bit and see what can be found?

You never know, maybe you'll end up contributing to our understanding of life, maybe (indirectly) even save a few lives!

Re:The business of extracting knowledge from academic public... by riku_iki on Thursday November 02, 2023 @02:10AM (#38109559)
I am working on the service which potentially can answer questions like in this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38109294

life science is one of potential applications if there is an interest and money.

Re:The business of extracting knowledge from academic public... by Kim_Bruning on Thursday November 02, 2023 @02:22AM (#38109629)
So the pathway to synthesize every protein is +/- the same: That's gene transcription[1] and translation[2]. If that's broken, you're in big trouble!

But if you mean in general if you're capable of looking at protein pathways where each protein catalyses a step in the pathway, that's definitely interesting. If a certain person has a flawed gene coding for protein X, that could indeed cause a problem.

To find valid answers, you might need to eg. track nodes and states in a graph, to figure all the consequences of a break. Not all types of storage systems/engines are equally good at that.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcription_(biology)

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Translation_(biology)

Re:The business of extracting knowledge from academic public... by riku_iki on Thursday November 02, 2023 @02:34AM (#38109710)
> Not all types of storage systems/engines are equally good at that.

Yes, I built system which traverses paths in graphs with 1B nodes and 10B links in 1h on affordable server. But that's only one part of the puzzle.

Re:The business of extracting knowledge from academic public... by Kim_Bruning on Thursday November 02, 2023 @02:40AM (#38109757)
Neat!