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Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by juunpp on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @10:20PM (#38108187)
Capitalism's goal is to enslave everybody into a wage. Can't afford having parents quitting the workforce to take care of their children, lest they also get time to think.
Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by tmn on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @11:05PM (#38108511)
You could make an argument that something like that is an externality. But capitalism’s goal is closer to incentivizing productivity by marrying needs and opportunity for mutual gain.
Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by gorwell on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @11:15PM (#38108567)
That's the goal of governments who want an easier to control population.
Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by Gibbon1 on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @11:34PM (#38108688)
Hat tipping Keynes I like to distinguish rentier capitalists from all the other types. In short capitalists that collect rents on stuff. Different than say an industrial capitalist the in the business of manufacturing and selling stuff.

The latter sort of understands that he needs workers to staff his factories. And consumers to buy. So he understands that children are tomorrows workers and consumers. The rentier capitalist is a financial parasite. He can't understand doesn't want to understand. Anything that reduces his rents like taxes to pay for school lunches pissed him off.

In the last 50 years rentier capitalists have managed to completely suppress the power of industrial capitalists and labor. And have managed to convince most people to think like them. So people think a parent spending time taking care of a child instead of working is 'a loss to the economy'

Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by refurb on Thursday November 02, 2023 @12:55AM (#38109169)
Ahh yes, versus the magical system where your kids get taken care of generous people for free.

What a low effort comment.

Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by PH95VuimJjqBqy on Thursday November 02, 2023 @01:22AM (#38109305)
> Ahh yes, versus the magical system where your kids get taken care of generous people for free.

What an odd way to say 'family'.

Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by refurb on Thursday November 02, 2023 @04:23AM (#38110465)
Ahhh yes, the magical system where you family doesn’t have to work for a living.

Genius!

Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by PH95VuimJjqBqy on Thursday November 02, 2023 @11:16AM (#38114697)
This is a made up problem.
Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by refurb on Thursday November 02, 2023 @08:56PM (#38122887)
People needing to work to support themselves is a "made up problem"?
Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by PH95VuimJjqBqy on Friday November 03, 2023 @09:10AM (#38128176)
This reminds me of those late night infomercials where someone is struggling to do something absolutely mundane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM4zMofsI7w

Is it possible someone somewhere is unable to successfully place socks on their feet? sure. Is it possible most people struggle with that? nope.

Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by juunpp on Friday November 03, 2023 @11:48AM (#38130551)
Mine is a comment that requires context, yours is the low-effort.

For example, prior to you being born, a family could survive on a single wage (typically the husband's) while the other parent raised the children. But societies were convinced that for our freedom, both parents should work, or be able to. And now you can barely even afford rent with two wages in many places, and often not afford both the rent and the family.

Re:As child care costs soar, more parents may have to exit t... by refurb on Saturday November 04, 2023 @01:43AM (#38138507)
You can certainly survive off a single wage (I know many who do) if you’re willing to maintain a lifestyle similar to when single wage earner households were common - 1960’s.

Of course you’d have to live with all the healthcare, technology and housing (small!) like it was in the 60’s. But it’s absolutely doable.

Shocking how many people don’t make that trade off!

People complaining basically want their cake and eat it too. They want the lifestyle off a two income household but also the free time to raise kids without help. Life doesn’t work that way.