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Re:My Rude-Ass Car by mauvehaus on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @10:05PM (#38108082)
To your list of highly desirable features, I'd add four wheel disc brakes. I was pretty over the moon when we sold off the last car in the household with drums on the rear. Drums are a pain in the ass. Maybe they're not too bad if you deal with them often enough, but discs are simpler by miles.

...And then we bought a '47 Willys Jeep a year later. Which has 4 wheel drums. And the worlds least conveniently located master cylinder.

Re:My Rude-Ass Car by wigglewoggle on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @10:51PM (#38108414)
I share your disdain for drums. Only issue is every four wheel disc vehicle I own still has a drum for the parking brake. Except these days they're electronic and need a scan tool to release them and get the rotor off!
Re:My Rude-Ass Car by mauvehaus on Thursday November 02, 2023 @07:56AM (#38112232)
Electronic drum brakes sound like my personal version of hell. I knew of the existence of electronic parking brakes, but hadn't realized that any car would be silly enough to need a scan tool to release it for service.
Re:My Rude-Ass Car by roflchoppa on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @11:33PM (#38108676)
I’m sure there is some other modern OEM hub assembly that you could swap in when it comes time to service it. Maybe off a 4Runner/jeep?
Re:My Rude-Ass Car by imp0cat on Thursday November 02, 2023 @02:19AM (#38109610)
Well, supposedly drums are better for the environment (less particle pollution when braking), so expect to see more of them, not less.
Re:My Rude-Ass Car by I_Am_Nous on Thursday November 02, 2023 @05:17PM (#38120284)
Is the claim that they produce less particles, or that they distribute less particles because the shoes/drum is more of a closed system? Generally drums are worse brakes than disks so if they don't brake as efficiently, you'd be grinding them for longer, likely making more particles.

I haven't heard much about drums lately except that cheap cars still sometimes have them in the rear.

Re:My Rude-Ass Car by imp0cat on Friday November 03, 2023 @07:38AM (#38127240)
Right. The basic idea is that because new cars will be hybrid or electric, most braking will be regenerative, so drums are fine.
Re:My Rude-Ass Car by I_Am_Nous on Friday November 03, 2023 @11:40AM (#38130453)
That makes more sense, if the fronts are regenerative, that's where most of the braking force comes from so I can see drums being sufficient in the back. A lot of lightweight motorcycles (especially classic styled ones) have rear drums.

The only thing I hate about driving a front disk/rear drum car is how deep the brake pedal is before you feel it activating the brakes. Going from responsive brakes to "oh shit they aren't activating yet..." panic for a second can take some getting used to!

Re:My Rude-Ass Car by Moru on Thursday November 02, 2023 @04:23AM (#38110463)
Oh, I can't remember a single car me or my father had that had drum brakes anywhere else than on the handbrake. How old cars are we talking about? The oldest I can remember was SAAB 99, about 50 years old model.
Re:My Rude-Ass Car by function_seven on Thursday November 02, 2023 @05:15AM (#38110846)
My 2012 Ford Escape has drums in the rear. I’m dreading that brake job.
Re:My Rude-Ass Car by aembleton on Thursday November 02, 2023 @07:14AM (#38111788)
My wifes 2016 Skoda Citigo had drums in the rear. My previous car, a 2002 Renault Clio also did.
Re:My Rude-Ass Car by mauvehaus on Thursday November 02, 2023 @07:54AM (#38112204)
The last car we had with them (before the Jeep) was a 2005 Honda Civic. It had discs in the front and drums in the rear.