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Re:Why doctors in America earn so much by deepsun on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @06:22PM (#38106185)
> ... to coast out the last decade of your career.

Here right now the age vibe is coming from ;) It's not like a doctor can coast it out (or maybe I'm also naive).

(I'm an employer as of now)

Re:Why doctors in America earn so much by ttt3ts on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @07:05PM (#38106648)
I would argue that a coasting grey beard could easily be better than a mid level dev with maybe 5 years experience.

I run a contract shop and all my best DB guys are greybeards... coasting. It doesn't matter, after so many years with postgres & MySQL they are amazing.

Re:Why doctors in America earn so much by andrei_says_ on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @11:29PM (#38108647)
I take chill in-the-flow steady progress over hyper rah-rah-rah windmill attacks any day, week, and month.
Re:Why doctors in America earn so much by deepsun on Thursday November 02, 2023 @11:40AM (#38115088)
Agree, with DBA or system administration it's possible. Not so with UI/frontend development, for some reason that's always a rush.

I would probably differentiate by work visibility: good work in DBA/sysadmin/security/accounting/quality is invisible, you only notice those folks when they have screwed up.

With product/UX/new features it's the other way around, coasting is not possible.

Re:Why doctors in America earn so much by ttt3ts on Friday November 03, 2023 @08:52PM (#38136931)
> With product/UX/new features it's the other way around, coasting is not possible.

That very much depends on the application. I maintain some enterprise solutions for customers. Clients get upset if UI has flow changes. Also, changes don't make me money unless they are required for a new customer. I will do it on request and invoice for the work but no one is interested in change for the most part. I think this is VERY common in enterprise software.

Re:Why doctors in America earn so much by strangattractor on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @07:26PM (#38106838)
Grey beard here. The last interview I had with a company was with the CEO (no beard) that could barely stay awake because he had been up all night (think Sam Altman with scurvy). I seriously doubt he remembered anything about me. That one experience let me know that I would not be doing the "coasting" being referred to in this thread. Instead I would be losing sleep repairing the mistakes from bad decisions and lack of experience which would ultimately lead to a dead startup. Thank you no.

There was a time when machismo was my middle name (much younger) and would have seen that as necessary for a successful startup. Now that I have several startups behind me I see it as simply bad management which decreases your chance for success which is stacked against you from the beginning anyway.

That was several years ago. I don't think that startup exist any longer.

Re:Why doctors in America earn so much by aorloff on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @09:42PM (#38107914)
I have often wondered if any VCs would allow a group of experienced devs to PE zombie startups, roll them up for pennies to see if any have an unexplored nugget of traction
Re:Why doctors in America earn so much by hoseja on Thursday November 02, 2023 @07:45AM (#38112093)
You'd have to pay the experienced devs in real money.
Re:Why doctors in America earn so much by aorloff on Saturday November 04, 2023 @12:08PM (#38142338)
Its the equity cramdown on the existing teams that would be harder
Re:Why doctors in America earn so much by simonbarker87 on Thursday November 02, 2023 @04:02AM (#38110293)
I meant nothing negative with my "retire into SQL" comment :-) some of the most fun I've had in my career is picking through a 25 year old SQL database understanding how it all works.