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Re:Carl Sagan's Rules for Bullshit-Busting and Critical Thin... by stjohnswarts on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @04:18PM (#38104449)
If you want to believe in fairy tales then enjoy them. I prefer materialism. We will never agree on this. You can't prove a God exists, so I simply don't care about the topic other than how it affects civilization negatively by promoting magical thinking and religious fanaticism/intolerance. I tolerate people who are religious, I don't wish them any harm; the opposite is quite untrue for a large proportion of the religious world for atheists/"infidels".
Re:Carl Sagan's Rules for Bullshit-Busting and Critical Thin... by ukj on Thursday November 02, 2023 @01:51AM (#38109455)
The deep irony in valuing matter more than you value values is not wasted on me.

You still haven't figured out that "matter" is yet another man-made concept? An abstract idea. A collective noun. Itself a "fairy tale". A very useful fiction.

A substance which posesse "rest mass" in a universe where nothing is ever at rest sure is magical thinking (to me).

You haven't yet come to the self-realization that you are committing the reification fallacy by promoting a man-made concept to a totalizing/generalizing/all-encompassing ontological status. Matter is your God.

>You can't prove a God exists

I never mentioned God, but here we are... You can't prove that matter exists either.

Matter is your God. It's the abstraction you worship.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...