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Re:Show HN: Phind Model beats GPT-4 at coding, with GPT-3.5 ... by donmcronald on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @07:27PM (#38092729)
Why is there an 8x difference in price-per-search between Plus and Pro?

I always shy away from stuff like this because I view it as one of two things. Either I'm getting ripped off if I pay for Plus, because 8x the cost to me means your margin is huge, or I'm getting subsidized by you with the Pro version which means I can't rely on it lasting long term.

I also dislike daily limits for search. My search usage isn't uniform day-to-day. I might go most of the month without searching for anything and then do a ton of searching over 2-3 days when I'm trying to learn something. So I'll be idle most of the month and then not have enough searches on the days I actually want to use it.

I prefer the model used by a lot of pre-paid services. Let me deposit a chunk of money (ex: $20-50 minimum) and charge me per search until my money is gone. That way I'm not "losing out" if I don't use it every day and I can "burst" as high as I want when I'm trying to learn something.

If the pricing is based on a certain amount of loss (on my side) from the use-it-or-lose it model, I don't like that. I want simple, fair pricing, not a complex pricing scheme where the primary purpose is to get me to overpay for my usage.

Re:Show HN: Phind Model beats GPT-4 at coding, with GPT-3.5 ... by rushingcreek on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @07:35PM (#38092783)
Phind Plus is $15/month and Phind Pro is $30/month. There is a 2x price difference, not an 8x difference. And Phind Pro comes with (virtually) unlimited GPT-4 uses.

We understand that the incentives of setting daily limits for search aren't great, which is why the Phind model is unlimited for free. GPT-4, however, is unfortunately too expensive for us not to charge past a certain usage threshold.

Re:Show HN: Phind Model beats GPT-4 at coding, with GPT-3.5 ... by donmcronald on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @07:52PM (#38092895)
Plus costs $0.016 per search and Pro costs $0.002 per search.

https://www.phind.com/search?cache=wgyz13tg4jkbl9pklptmpds5

Re:Show HN: Phind Model beats GPT-4 at coding, with GPT-3.5 ... by ojosilva on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @08:55PM (#38093350)
To me the $15/mo plan is just bait so users pick the target $30/mo month. Why would you pay $0.016/search when you can pay 8x less and feel smart about making that choice?

edit: looking at it again, I think the $15/mo is actually just for people who wants Phind "private", so that their data is not used for training.

Re:Show HN: Phind Model beats GPT-4 at coding, with GPT-3.5 ... by nick-sta on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @09:02PM (#38093400)
Cost per search isn't really a great metric. For me, I hit the cap of 30 searches/day pretty easily, but 500 is pretty hard to hit. For me, its just a question of what tier matches my volume.
Re:Show HN: Phind Model beats GPT-4 at coding, with GPT-3.5 ... by ezekiel68 on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @10:41PM (#38094009)
Plenty of people know their upper limit. The ability to pay 50% less if that limit applies is a feature, not a bug. (This applies to any service -- I am not affiliated with phind except as an occasional user).