Do you see any upper limit for how much you are willing to pay per student to have them educated in society?

The upper limit would be the expected total contribution to society that person would create in their lifetime.

We already pay more per student than literally any other socialist country. More so in the "bad schools". Money isn't the problem, it's "da culture".

What do you mean by “da culture”

Every time this line of thought comes up, I wonder where these people think the money is going. Perhaps to teacher salaries in very high cost-of-living areas? Perhaps to providing basic services to students (like breakfast and basic therapy) that their parents can't because, as a society, we've deemed the latter unworthy of a decent income, for whatever reason? Perhaps to maintaining failing infrastructure that was purposely neglected for decades?

I feel like they think that the money is given to the kids directly, who waste it on weed and the hippity hop albums or whatever. Call it what it is: racism and classism destroys their critical thinking capacity.

nah, its the administrative state where all the money is going. ie not to the kids or the teachers. same thing for college (private or public). professors salaries didnt go up. i wouldnt mind paying teachers more directly its just that the money gets sucked up before it touches them.

I've never seen proof of this, nor why it's any different for wealthy school districts where cost-per-student is nominally lower (parental investment notwithstanding).

But that's beside the point, because the notion is always brought up as a way to say that the students themselves are a lost cause.

anti-intellectualism and faux-intellectualism.

In 2019 the US was at 38% above average with four other countries above us: https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cmd/education-exp...

I think our educational outcomes are not in line with our spending because a part of our political apparatus is simultaneously trying to sabotage the program.