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Re:Carl Sagan's Rules for Bullshit-Busting and Critical Thin... by demondemidi on Sunday October 29, 2023 @06:57PM (#38063697)
That's not what metaphysics is about.

Metaphysics is the study of "being qua being".

"[Aristotle] claims that each science studies a unified genus, but denies that there is a single genus for all beings". You're applying tautology without really understanding the construction of your own question.

https://academic.oup.com/edited-volume/28232/chapter-abstrac...

ELI5: asking about science isn't science. Like reading about painting isn't painting. Or more poetically, "Ce n'est pas une pipe"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images

Re:Carl Sagan's Rules for Bullshit-Busting and Critical Thin... by ukj on Sunday October 29, 2023 @07:17PM (#38063832)
Being qua being. Science qua science. Mathematics qua Mathematics X qua X for any X.

Metaphysics.

Or as it is commonly referred to in computer science: function self-application. One example of which being the Y combinator (as in the name of this very forum).

I am applying a tautology in exactly the mathematical sense of a tautology; and I understand my construction just fine.

Had you been more charitable you would’ve addressed my argument; not your strawman of my argument.

Re:Carl Sagan's Rules for Bullshit-Busting and Critical Thin... by demondemidi on Sunday October 29, 2023 @08:35PM (#38064347)
I'm charitable by trying to teach you with examples.

> Or as it is commonly referred to in computer science: function self-application

No, that's recursion, not metaphysics.

Is computer science the same as programming, no. Computer science is the study of programming, not programming. You learn this in your first year of CS.

If you're smart enough to _really_ understand what a Y combinator is, this should be a piece of cake.

Re:Carl Sagan's Rules for Bullshit-Busting and Critical Thin... by ukj on Monday October 30, 2023 @12:58AM (#38065851)
I am struggling to spot the charity in all your condescension.