'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love with dating apps

Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by agent327 on Sunday October 29, 2023 @05:45PM (#38063135)

Taxes may build the foundation of a productive society, but reproduction builds the actual society. And in both taxes and coerced reproduction, something is taken by force from someone who has not consented to that. In the case of reproduction we are talking about roughly nine months of effort (at least), and in the case of taxes it depends on the country, but in mine it is roughly six months of effort (Tax Liberation Day falls on June 20th here). So that's roughly six month of coerced slavery, and unlike reproduction, it comes back every single year.

So I see a lot of similarities, yet one is generally accepted, and the other... not so much. Even though most of the world is heading towards population collapse, and surely the moral obligation you speak of also applies when it comes to ensuring society survives in the first place.

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Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by Spivak on Sunday October 29, 2023 @06:42PM (#38063583)

God I really hope when you're reincarnated it's as a woman so you can truly understand how completely certifiably insane you sound.

"the government death squads and taxes are both taking something by force that's not consented to -- life, and percentage of your income" -- like holy hell dude.

I don't even know where to begin to bridge the experience gap of someone who thinks that government sponsored human trafficking (because that's what forced marriage is), rape, and forced impregnation is comparable to taxes.

Give me the choice between working a menial dead end job until I die or the hell you're describing for only 1 year and I'll have my resume polished before you can finish the sentence.

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Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by agent327 on Monday October 30, 2023 @03:15AM (#38066523)

They are taking literally HALF THE LIFE of every working person, and you are sufficiently brainwashed to think that that's perfectly normal. Or perhaps you know full well what's happening, but prefer the status quo because you are a net receiver in this situation.

For the rest, your total lack of empathy ("only women can suffer"), twisting of my words ("death squads", really?), and your willingness to kill your husband (irrational, but there you go) means I won't be responding to you in the future.

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Re:'It's quite soul-destroying': how we fell out of love wit... by Spivak on Monday October 30, 2023 @09:10AM (#38069049)

I'm not a receiver in taxes, I'm a software engineer who pays far more than I will ever receive in taxes. It's fine, they're not taking half my life they're taking (for my last tax year) about 30% of my gross income. I wouldn't suddenly get 4 months off if I had that money back. My salary negotiation takes taxes into account. I just voted for two tax levies one being for schools where I don't have and never will have children going because I have a private school I want to send my future kids.

I'm not saying only women can suffer, I'm saying you literally can't grasp how much of a hell the world you're imagining with forced marriage is. And of course I'd kill my husband, in your world he's my government appointed rapist whose babies I will be forced to have. What other option do I have? Right now today that would be more than enough to qualify for self defense. You apparently think this is fine and the pregnancy is "just" 9 months of your civic duty while me and every other woman will say is the furthest thing from fine possible. You're arguing that "death squads" is too hyperbolic but I'd rather take the firing squad. Men would suffer in your hell too but you don't see any of the downsides I guess.

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