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Re:A.I. Muddies Israel-Hamas War in Unexpected Way by crazygringo on Saturday October 28, 2023 @11:23AM (#38050503)
It's simply called using common sense and relying on trusted sources.

"Cryptographic trust" is never going to prove anything. Even if a camera can encrypt a photograph to try to prove a particular photograph was taken at a particular place and time, nothing is preventing someone from spoofing a GPS signal and snapping a photo of a doctored photograph with the camera.

Adulterated content has been around for basically as long as the printing press.

Re:A.I. Muddies Israel-Hamas War in Unexpected Way by pixl97 on Saturday October 28, 2023 @11:41AM (#38050678)
Have you noticed that any time anyone says anything about common sense, it's after common sense has already failed?
Re:A.I. Muddies Israel-Hamas War in Unexpected Way by crazygringo on Saturday October 28, 2023 @12:04PM (#38050857)
...no?

Where has common sense already failed?

Re:A.I. Muddies Israel-Hamas War in Unexpected Way by anselm on Saturday October 28, 2023 @11:37AM (#38050639)
Enjoy your completely unfiltered social network then. It’s not my problem if you can’t see any benefit whatsoever to any kind of trust filtering.
Re:A.I. Muddies Israel-Hamas War in Unexpected Way by crazygringo on Saturday October 28, 2023 @12:03PM (#38050851)
I never said anything about unfiltered social networks.

I already have trust filtering, just by following specific journalists whose reporting I trust. They do the work of verifying photographs, because it's part of their area of professional expertise, and I appreciate it.

Re:A.I. Muddies Israel-Hamas War in Unexpected Way by brookst on Saturday October 28, 2023 @11:43AM (#38050688)
Trust can never be 100% proven in anything. None of these mitigations are intended to provide that level of technically impossible certainty.

The intent of all trust systems is to make it more difficult (technically, financially) to falsify information. It’s a statistics game — the harder it is to break a trust system, the fewer people will do it. This is true for everything from house keys to PKI to currency to ID cards.

Re:A.I. Muddies Israel-Hamas War in Unexpected Way by crazygringo on Saturday October 28, 2023 @12:06PM (#38050877)
But this isn't like ID cards.

The general population doesn't care about whether an image was cryptographically signed. It's going to have zero effect.

People who don't care about the truth are going to continue to pass around edited images, while those who do get their news from trusted journalists and aren't paying attention to random images on social networks.