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Re:Lessons Learned from Twenty Years of Site Reliability Eng... by DaiPlusPlus on Friday October 27, 2023 @03:11PM (#38042622)
> Afair Google just ran irc on their corp network which was completely separate from prod

I thought Google didn't have a "corp" network because of their embrace of zero-trust in BeyondCorp?

Re:Lessons Learned from Twenty Years of Site Reliability Eng... by dilyevsky on Friday October 27, 2023 @03:17PM (#38042681)
I don't think zero-trust prohibits network segmentation for redundancy or due to geographical constraints. It's mainly about how you gain access.
Re:Lessons Learned from Twenty Years of Site Reliability Eng... by Moto7451 on Friday October 27, 2023 @03:48PM (#38043061)
Correct. At an old job we did zero trust corp on a different AWS region and account. The admin site was a different zero trust zone in prod region/account and was supposed to eventually become another AWS account in another region (for cost purposes).

I can’t say if any of this was ideal but it did work unobtrusively.

Re:Lessons Learned from Twenty Years of Site Reliability Eng... by shanemhansen on Friday October 27, 2023 @06:27PM (#38044825)
They do. But I'd say most employees go their whole career without needing to do anything that requires a VPN.

It's basically all web based access through what is, at the end of the day, a http proxy.

SREs need to be ready for stuff like "hey, what if the big proxy we all use to access internal resources is down?".

Re:Lessons Learned from Twenty Years of Site Reliability Eng... by foobazgt on Saturday October 28, 2023 @04:08AM (#38048090)
Way back when, for a while, our local (Google) office's internet access ran off the same physical lines as the local prod datacenter traffic. So, any time there was a datacenter traffic outage of any kind, our office was also out. There weren't a lot of outages of that variant, but we knew immediately when one was happening. It's not particularly fun to have all of your access go out concurrently with a prod outage.