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Re:Don’t Be Evil: How Google Screwed a Startup by vaksel on Thursday April 05, 2012 @02:43PM (#3803951)
I had a similar thing happen to me...to a point.

It was with adwords...it was back when I was just getting started and I did affiliate marketing. I promoted this weight loss clickbank book...it didn't pan out, so I paused the ads.

My mistake...TWO YEARS later, I get a notice that they've shut down the account with bots because apparently that type of advertising is no longer allowed. So my old approval got tossed...and my account got perma banned over something that happened 2 years prior.

I filed an appeal, and that got ignored.

So I just said screw it, and created a new account. If Google won't play by its own damn rules, and will apply rules retroactively, I don't see why anyone should follow the rule about no duplicate accounts.

So I just signed up for adwords with a po box and did everything via VPN to avoid getting banned for duplicate account(matched via ip address). And it worked just fine.

That's the thing, all this bullshit that Google does...only hurts legitimate publishers.

The black hatters(who these rules are actually supposed to be for) only get a slight slap on the wrist...since all they have to do is just pay $5 to get a legitimate approved Adsense/Adwords account. Then just continue doing whatever they were doing before.

Re:Don’t Be Evil: How Google Screwed a Startup by ryanac on Thursday April 05, 2012 @04:22PM (#3804436)
Wow, so that's why my account got banned.

This EXACT same thing happened to me and I always wondered why. I hadn't used my account for years, everything was off. Then out of nowhere I get an e-mail from Google saying my accounts banned. I didn't care because I'm not doing any advertising anymore, but it's got to suck for anyone who may be making part of their living from from ad revenue.

The most annoying thing about what happened to me was that the campaigns were OFF and when I was using Google Adwords AFAIK you could not delete campaigns, just pause them, so what else could I have done to avoid this?

If you could delete them, it was not made clear how to at the time, I seem to remember starting new (slightly different) campaigns because I couldn't completely delete old ones.

Well, at least if I want to try to get my account opened again, I'll have some alternate options beside the appeal system. Thanks for sharing your work around. :)

Re:Don’t Be Evil: How Google Screwed a Startup by forwardslash on Thursday April 05, 2012 @07:58PM (#3805293)
I had this exact same thing happen. I wanted to try out some advertising so I put up in $20 and an ad for some shitty clickbank book. Of course it went nowhere so I deleted the whole campaign and left it at that. I went back to check out adwords a year later and my account was banned. I tried to appeal but they just told me that the anyone who ever had those urls as ads were banned and there was nothing they were going to do about it. Now that I'm going to get into Android development I'm think I'm going to try what you did, different address, VPN, etc. I'm moving in the summer so it won't be so hard.
Re:Don’t Be Evil: How Google Screwed a Startup by powertower on Thursday April 05, 2012 @05:27PM (#3804721)
So how do you tie in the account to a credit card or bank account?

Won't google detect the same name on the CC or bank account?

Re:Don’t Be Evil: How Google Screwed a Startup by mistercow on Thursday April 05, 2012 @06:00PM (#3804861)
Names aren't exactly unique.
Re:Don’t Be Evil: How Google Screwed a Startup by eurleif on Thursday April 05, 2012 @06:26PM (#3804968)
AdSense also requires a SSN so they can file a 1099 with the IRS.
Re:Don’t Be Evil: How Google Screwed a Startup by rorrr on Thursday April 05, 2012 @06:38PM (#3805008)
Tax IDs and SSN numbers are.
Re:Don’t Be Evil: How Google Screwed a Startup by barrkel on Thursday April 05, 2012 @09:28PM (#3805541)
AFAIK SSNs are not unique (1:1 in either respect) in the US.

http://blogs.computerworld.com/node/5969

Re:Don’t Be Evil: How Google Screwed a Startup by jaggederest on Thursday April 05, 2012 @08:39PM (#3805413)
Business tax ID solves that problem. Incorporate and you get one from the IRS.
Re:Don’t Be Evil: How Google Screwed a Startup by vaksel on Thursday April 05, 2012 @06:12PM (#3804918)
business credit card...but I'd imagine, as long as the credit card # is different, the name itself shouldn't matter