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Re:Ask HN: PG's 'Do Things That Don't Scale' Manual Examples by tomhoward on Thursday October 26, 2023 @05:17AM (#38023434)
The site is literally called Hacker News and it was built from the start to be a community of current/potential startup founders.

(And no, self upvoting/ringvoting isn’t ok on HN and probably hasn’t been on Reddit for 17.5 of the past 18 years either. We’re talking about bootstrapping a totally new site in 2005, nothing more.)

Re:Ask HN: PG's 'Do Things That Don't Scale' Manual Examples by hardware2win on Thursday October 26, 2023 @09:42AM (#38025405)
Both self upvote and creating X accounts are form of manipulation. If vote manipulation is bad, then why r u ok with artifical increase of users?

Artifical users on dating apps are OK?

>The site is literally called Hacker News and it was built from the start to be a community of current/potential startup founders.

Im aware, so thats why probably ppl here are ok with those manipulative practices used to bootstrap.

Re:Ask HN: PG's 'Do Things That Don't Scale' Manual Examples by tomhoward on Thursday October 26, 2023 @10:20AM (#38025941)
I've addressed these questions in several other comments in the thread. To repeat: no laws/rules of any kind were broken. Nobody was harmed. Nobody who was a user of the site in those days has complained of feeling deceived. It's a funny, playful thing to do with zero harm done. I like funny, playful things. The only people who care about this are people who like to finger-wag. Knock yourself out if that's what you like to do.
Re:Ask HN: PG's 'Do Things That Don't Scale' Manual Examples by hardware2win on Thursday October 26, 2023 @10:53AM (#38026378)
This is similar to buying fake traffic or reviews, it is just manipulation.
Re:Ask HN: PG's 'Do Things That Don't Scale' Manual Examples by tomhoward on Friday October 27, 2023 @12:21AM (#38034657)
No, it’s entirely different. You’re picking things that are clearly fraudulent and asserting an equivalency, without basis or examination.

Reddit’s practice was a simulation of activity to see what kind of activity was engaging. Nobody was defrauded or harmed and no legal or moral rules were breached.

This comment commits the beg-the-question fallacy of assuming the conclusion (fraud/moral breach) in its argumentation.

I understand that people have a need to believe that behind every fortune lies a great crime [1], but this is not the smoking gun people are looking for.

[1] https://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/09/09/fortune-crime/?amp=...