> With web components it's the wild west, and since you can't pass complex objects as attributes like you can in jsx, you end up doing a mix of attributes, events, and calling class functions directly.

Or you just write a 'value' getter and setter and be done with it. I write most of my web components to operate like a form component. Forms have state. Forms have mechanisms for gathering state from all components and saving them into a single object. Forms have a means of restoring all that state.

You _barely_ need a layer of abstraction to handle all this. I've honestly never understood the "state management problem" or why anyone would think a framework is the way to solve it.