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Re:Shopify Files Lawsuit over Illegal DMCA Takedown Abuse by ChrisMarshallNY on Monday October 23, 2023 @02:24PM (#37989565)
The app we're currently releasing does not have an auto-signup. Each account signup request is reviewed manually.

Needless to say, this is difficult to scale. It's fine for our app; which Serves a fairly small demographic, and does not make money, but it would be a big problem for major-league outfits.

I have a feeling that one of the first commercial applications of AI, will be moderation and response to customer complaints.

We'll have to see how well that works.

Re:Shopify Files Lawsuit over Illegal DMCA Takedown Abuse by ToucanLoucan on Monday October 23, 2023 @03:20PM (#37990312)
> I have a feeling that one of the first commercial applications of AI, will be moderation and response to customer complaints.

> We'll have to see how well that works.

Worth noting that almost all of YouTube's front facing customer service is heavily, heavily automated, which is a source of constant hostility and aggrivation for YouTubers, in that they must interact with these ML agents, get a stupid, nonsensical answer, then reply again to get a human reviewer who (usually) resolves the situation that would've been faster resolved by a human in the first place and let to less frustration for all involved.

I think it's a fantastic idea to not automate the process of signups for a service, and yes, it will substantially slow down the process. But I think everyone has just about had their fill of all these services that produce bad outcomes extremely quickly when a trivial amount of human involvement would've handled whatever issue better, in a perfectly acceptable time frame.

If you don't want to have a customer service department that is well staffed and well paid to handle customer complaints/problems/issues/what have you, then my suggestion is do not involve yourself with or build a company that will need one. Simple as.

Re:Shopify Files Lawsuit over Illegal DMCA Takedown Abuse by cheschire on Monday October 23, 2023 @03:26PM (#37990371)
I'm bearish on AI/ML in the customer support space. It's been terribly easy to trick these tools.

Maybe instead of moderation and response, it would function better as a blackbox middleware to the customer support onboarding process. So instead of tackling the problem at the customer level, you use AI/ML to enable your existing support staff to scale their workload.

The picture I have in my mind is a pre-processor for new tickets that would add a series of tags to a support request. That would allow your support staff to be assigned to tags where they specialize. This simplistic implementation would probably integrate into existing service management platforms without having to stand up Yet Another B2B.

Re:Shopify Files Lawsuit over Illegal DMCA Takedown Abuse by pixl97 on Monday October 23, 2023 @03:38PM (#37990505)
>but it would be a big problem for major-league outfits

Not only is this a lie you've been willingly sold, it appears you've bought it and taken it home.

This said I don't think you should feel too bad, we the consumer buy these same lies all over the place "If we have to follow these regulations then it's going to be a big problem for the industry".

At the end of the day some of the problems do not scale easily and cheaply. In these cases business have the choice of willingly being good societal actors and taking a loss of profit in order to prevent issues, or by means of regulation be forced to behave in a fitting manner.

Re:Shopify Files Lawsuit over Illegal DMCA Takedown Abuse by ChrisMarshallNY on Monday October 23, 2023 @03:46PM (#37990597)
> Not only is this a lie you've been willingly sold, it appears you've bought it and taken it home.

That was unkind. I didn't think we behaved that way, here, but I'm often wrong...

It certainly can be done, but that usually means the shareholders need to hold off on that second lambo. That doesn't often play well, in the boardroom.

Re:Shopify Files Lawsuit over Illegal DMCA Takedown Abuse by shiroiuma on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @12:17AM (#37994802)
I don't think OP was unkind at all; maybe a bit blunt, but telling someone you think they've been lied to and duped and that they're a victim is not unkind in my opinion. Powerful entities have been lying and duping common people for... well, probably for all of human history. The OP may or may not be correct, but from my reading of their post, I don't think they intended that as an attack of any kind, but rather a commiseration.