Re:Ask HN: Was any Starfighter postmortem ever published?
by nemothekid on Monday October 23, 2023 @01:37PM
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The FizzBuzz test came about for similar reasons in 2007 - long before government pressures for DEI quotas[1].
The problem is computer science university degrees aren't enterprise training academies. "Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes." Universities aren't incentivized to fix this because universities are research institutions - they don't make money from placing students in jobs, so trying to solve this is a dead end.
[1] https://blog.codinghorror.com/why-cant-programmers-program/
Re:Ask HN: Was any Starfighter postmortem ever published?
by thaumasiotes on Monday October 23, 2023 @07:51PM
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> The FizzBuzz test came about for similar reasons in 2007 - long before government pressures for DEI quotas[1].
Government pressure for hiring quotas goes back to the 1970s.
Re:Ask HN: Was any Starfighter postmortem ever published?
by nemothekid on Monday October 23, 2023 @10:27PM
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It's moreso I don't believe there was a ton of government pressure being applied to startups with 15 people.
Re:Ask HN: Was any Starfighter postmortem ever published?
by thaumasiotes on Monday October 23, 2023 @11:10PM
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That's also still true today.
Re:Ask HN: Was any Starfighter postmortem ever published?
by ghiculescu on Monday October 23, 2023 @01:20PM
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That happens too but I think the underlying reasons are simpler.
Everyone involved in hiring should read “The Case Against Education” by Caplan.
In my part of the world specifically, the reason you get this is largely due to quota pressures by government. Government actively economically disadvantages white-privilege companies that don't fill unreasonable DEI quotas, effectively making an educational deficiency in the government's programs as a problem that the "private sector" has to fix 15-years too-late whether at University or in the workplace.
So everyone just passes the buck because they can't fix it nor can they speak the truth about the real cause, until at the end of chain the company making widgets/products/things has to take a hit and passes this problem on to the consumer in the form of hidden crapflation. But hey, government said they're fighting inequality, universities can say they are promoting education, companies can tick the DEI quota box, we all blame it on the "White Man" that can't say anything, DEI groups "get jobs" and the DEI grifter consultant machine makes mega-bucks. Win's all around, right.