Windows 11: The number you have dialed has been disconnected

Re:Windows 11: The number you have dialed has been disconnected by eviks on Monday October 23, 2023 @11:14AM (#37986828)

> Only the one out of the box is included with macOS

1. one too many. 2. What about all the other non-removable wallpapers, apps and other useless-to-many OS components and data like graphics drivers for graphic cards that you'll never have on your locked down laptop?

> Actually, it's been widely reported that Windows 11 take-up is widely exceeding Microsoft's projections.

Actually, the author is not required to use MS's projections as the basis for his own judgement

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Re:Windows 11: The number you have dialed has been disconnected by gjsman-1000 on Monday October 23, 2023 @03:32PM (#37990445)

> 1. one too many. 2. What about all the other non-removable wallpapers, apps and other useless-to-many OS components and data like graphics drivers for graphic cards that you'll never have on your locked down laptop?

Well, two can play at that game. Do you want me to make a list of all the drivers that come with a Linux installation that you will never use? What about packages? How much backwards compatibility within those packages is included that you will never use either? Fedora and Ubuntu come with like 2 dozen background images out of the box, everyone knows it shouldn't come with any and I should provide my own. Most Linux installations still come with drivers for floppy disks, those space-wasting maniacs!

Also, "locked down laptop" is a common nonsense argument because booting into Recovery Mode and doing `sudo csrutil disable` is all it takes to disable SIP and be able to mount the root partition. If you want to disable Gatekeeper, it's `sudo spctl --master-disable`. Super locked down, I tell you, when 2 commands is all it takes to burst all the locks. Saying macOS is locked down only shows the ignorance of the person saying it.

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Re:Windows 11: The number you have dialed has been disconnected by eviks on Tuesday October 24, 2023 @12:40AM (#37994893)

You can't play this game since you're too ignorant as to the nature of the game. The Win/Linux part is irrelevant in this conversation about whether an argument about MacOS is "dumb and misinformed", and is actually reinforcing the author's point since he also claims it's a common issue across OS

> `sudo csrutil disable` is all it takes to disable SIP and be able to mount the root partition

> Saying macOS is locked down only shows the ignorance of the person saying it.

Oh, the irony of an ignorant calling out the ignorance. It used to be that "simple" (though you still had to waste time figuring out which spread-out junk was safe to delete).

But it isn't that simple any more with the newer OS, it's much more, yes, locked down, since you forgot about that minor crypto-signed thingy called Signed System Volume (SSV) (https://eclecticlight.co/2020/11/30/is-big-surs-system-volum...)

You can check some more complicated setup here https://nektony.com/how-to/uninstall-default-apple-apps-on-m..., but then it's much more involved, but also more risky, and then there are still updates..

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