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Re:Amazon shut down a Slack channel where 2k employees talke... by lopkeny12ko on Saturday October 21, 2023 @12:22PM (#37968155)
So, you are European, and you hire a dev who is clearly not contributing or pulling their weight. Maybe they lied about their experience on their resume. It doesn't matter. What do you do? Just let him coast forever, collecting a paycheck while wasting company resources and dragging the team down?
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Re:Amazon shut down a Slack channel where 2k employees talke... by steeve on Saturday October 21, 2023 @12:42PM (#37968349)
You know it's possible to fire people in Europe, right?
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Re:Amazon shut down a Slack channel where 2k employees talke... by lopkeny12ko on Saturday October 21, 2023 @12:45PM (#37968387)
If only there was a structured process for that. Maybe we could call it a "performance improvement plan," or PIP for short.
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Re:Amazon shut down a Slack channel where 2k employees talke... by rurounijones on Saturday October 21, 2023 @01:43PM (#37968960)
That fact your reply to a comment about having a structured way to fire someone could be called a "performance improvement plan or PIP for short" is hilarious to me.

It seems you have accepted that PIPs are just a tool to fire someone but still think calling it a PIP is perfectly logical and desirable to the point that you snarkily suggest that this is what it should be called.

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Re:Amazon shut down a Slack channel where 2k employees talke... by lopkeny12ko on Saturday October 21, 2023 @02:24PM (#37969262)
I don't know about your situation, but at every company I've ever worked for, firing a report for performance reasons requires the employee to first be placed on a PIP. Call it whatever you want, but in most cases (from both the employee and manager perspective), a PIP is not designed with the intent that the employee should remain at the company.
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Re:Amazon shut down a Slack channel where 2k employees talke... by GaryNumanVevo on Saturday October 21, 2023 @02:23PM (#37969257)
Yeah, there's typically a 3-6 month probation period
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