Amazon shut down a Slack channel where 2k employees talked about PIPs

Re:Amazon shut down a Slack channel where 2k employees talke... by sokoloff on Saturday October 21, 2023 @08:11AM (#37966138)

There are a lot of managers who would never fire someone for what I’ll call “routine underperformance” (to distinguish from harassment, job abandonment, etc.)

If a company thinks some non-trivial percentage of the employee population is likely to be underperforming to the extent they should be fired, they probably should implement a URA target (or “rank and yank” or similar).

I’m with you in disliking such policies, but if you want forced turnover of those ranked low-performing, you have to make it a hard policy, because human managers dislike firing low-performing employees who seem like they’re trying.

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Re:Amazon shut down a Slack channel where 2k employees talke... by avidiax on Saturday October 21, 2023 @11:32AM (#37967626)

How much damage does a routine underperformer cause vs. creating a very toxic corporate culture where routine underperformers learn that it's easier to slow others down and those same managers now hire underperformers on purpose?

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Re:Amazon shut down a Slack channel where 2k employees talke... by sokoloff on Saturday October 21, 2023 @01:25PM (#37968797)

That's why I don't like quota-based policies, but never firing underperformers also has its own significant problems, so finding the right balance is important.

Neither pin is a good place to be.

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