There was live stream from Al-Jazeera showing the failed rocket at the correct timestamp.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/18/al-ahli-arab-h...
> and the voice recordings were alleged to be faked
By who? The article just leads to a tweet with no citations from any experts.
https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/171499970410093403...
It most likely means they found 2 random people on Twitter.
But instead of providing nameless fake experts to try and dispute the recording content they should just say it's impossible to verify so not acceptable as evidence in either direction.
Although I wouldn't mind interviews with actual experts, but saying "independent journalists" with no names or anything definitely turns on red flags.
But ignoring the recording I still find the evidence strong enough to assume this was in all likelihood a failed jihad rocket.
- The IDF often attacks hospitals
- The IDF warned people to evacuate the hospital repeatedly in the days leading up to the attack
- IDF affiliates initially claimed credit for the attack
- The IDF posted video “proving” it was a failed rocket launch, then removed the video without acknowledging it when people pointed out that the timestamps didn’t line up
- The IDF released an inculpatory recording of Hamas that has since been widely discredited
- To the extent that they are able to investigate, many independent organizations have not found evidence supporting the IDF’s claims
- The US is resisting calls to allow independent investigations
- The IDF has targeted other hospitals since the air strike
Here's another piece of evidence to consider (although you'll probably disqualify it since it's from the IDF), a video that shows just high the hamas/jihad rocket failure rate is:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/17d7wa6/flir...
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/21/middleeast/cnn-investigat...
"Hamas said so", that's who.
I'm gonna start using this phrase as an idiom, whenever a citation is missing.
Anyway, I agree that "Hamas said so" is one side, and it's weak. And on the other side you have the still-standing hospital. You also have Biden's statement, which I'm sure is based on the latest evidence he has access to.
But I do want to point out, that two pieces of the evidence you mention: the misfiring rocket video and the voice recordings, if they're what I think you're referring to, were both released by the Israeli government and have been disputed as well. The video had the wrong timestamps, as pointed out by a NYTimes journalist, and the voice recordings were alleged to be faked, by a mainstream UK-based news agency.
It's quite a mess.
[0] https://www.readtangle.com/the-explosion-at-a-gaza-hospital/