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Re:Toyota Adopts the North American Charging Standard by AdamJacobMuller on Thursday October 19, 2023 @08:22PM (#37950593)
That would require some anticompetitive behavior, you can't simply split things up because they are a monopoly.

Future behavior not-withstanding, Tesla will (correctly IMO) point at the opening up of NACS standard and the supercharger network as a defining anti-anti-competitive move.

Re:Toyota Adopts the North American Charging Standard by seanmcdirmid on Thursday October 19, 2023 @08:25PM (#37950623)
You can split them up if they become so successful that uncompetitive behavior just falls out of it. Like people who want to split away the app store from the iPhone (regardless of the fact that other phones and app stores exist: Apple's vertical closed ecosystem makes the iPhone more popular).
Re:Toyota Adopts the North American Charging Standard by djbusby on Thursday October 19, 2023 @11:24PM (#37952062)
More popular than what? Android is 70% global market share.
Re:Toyota Adopts the North American Charging Standard by Guvante on Thursday October 19, 2023 @11:50PM (#37952198)
Apple had a 75% market share of phones that cost $600 or more in 2022...
Re:Toyota Adopts the North American Charging Standard by pests on Friday October 20, 2023 @12:55AM (#37952501)
If you define your market small enough anything can be a monopoly. I bet Apple has a 95% market share on phones that cost more than $1500. I bet Google has 75% market share on phones less than $100. So what?
Re:Toyota Adopts the North American Charging Standard by Guvante on Friday October 20, 2023 @10:22AM (#37956464)
We are talking about the App Store here, correct?

Do you think that for an App Store attached to a phone whether the phone cost $100 or $1,000 matters?

Because everyone related to those App Stores does.

Re:Toyota Adopts the North American Charging Standard by seanmcdirmid on Friday October 20, 2023 @01:26PM (#37958964)
Apple's control of the app store makes the $1,000 phone more appealing. If they opened up the iPhone to other random app makers, the phone would be less appealing and they wouldn't sell as much.
Re:Toyota Adopts the North American Charging Standard by seanmcdirmid on Friday October 20, 2023 @12:39AM (#37952439)
Profit share.
Re:Toyota Adopts the North American Charging Standard by withinboredom on Friday October 20, 2023 @01:26AM (#37952618)
You don’t need a monopoly to be anti-competitive and get broken up because of it.
Re:Toyota Adopts the North American Charging Standard by blackguardx on Thursday October 19, 2023 @10:50PM (#37951852)
Alcoa aluminum is a counter example but that was in a different regulatory climate.
Re:Toyota Adopts the North American Charging Standard by akira2501 on Thursday October 19, 2023 @11:51PM (#37952207)
Laws are laws. That they aren't enforced sometimes is a pity, but that doesn't negate their existence. The Sherman Antitrust Act is pretty broad, and even simply "dividing markets" can be a cause for action.

For those that dislike these laws so much they would rather pretend they don't exist, I wish they would spend some time reading and understanding the context under which these laws were passed. These types of arrangements, when allowed to balloon out of proportion unchecked, cause massive amounts of damage to the average american citizen and their individual and collective long term interests.

Lassez Faire style regulation was effectively tried and it was an unmitigated disaster for the citizen, who is, and should be, protected in our Constitution while our corporations must obviously be constrained to subordination by it.