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Re:The case against AI everything, everywhere, all at once by ad404b8a372f2b9 on Thursday October 19, 2023 @12:46PM (#37945244)
Reminds me of this episode of star trek: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_Bough_Breaks_(Star_Tr...

It's about an ancient civilization so advanced they have tools and computers that can create art just from their intent. But they have grown so distant from the inner workings of these tools that they are incapable of modifying or repairing them and their survival is put into jeopardy because of it.

Re:The case against AI everything, everywhere, all at once by Terr_ on Thursday October 19, 2023 @01:29PM (#37945822)
Or The Machine Stops by E. M. Forster, which I think has held up pretty well for something published 114 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Machine_Stops

Re:The case against AI everything, everywhere, all at once by TeMPOraL on Thursday October 19, 2023 @01:29PM (#37945809)
If we're on the topic of Star Trek, observe how the crew of Enterprise-D talked with the ship's computer. LLMs are the quality jump in technology that, for the first time, make it possible to create this kind of DWIM interaction, where the computer can actually understand what you mean when you talk to it like to a person, in natural language, instead of a restricted language.

Ironically, later shows dialed down on the smartness of Starfleet computers - from what I heard, TNG level voice interface seemed too advanced to be believable. But it turns out, the unbelievable became reality sooner than anyone expected.

Re:The case against AI everything, everywhere, all at once by biomcgary on Thursday October 19, 2023 @01:33PM (#37945865)
If only reality had given us warp drives instead of talking computers.
Re:The case against AI everything, everywhere, all at once by ravenstine on Thursday October 19, 2023 @01:21PM (#37945712)
For as substandard as most of the season 1 TNG episodes were, there was a lot of interesting ideas sprinkled here and there like the one you mentioned. It's too bad that poor acting and the ridiculously small scale of the conflict in the episode distracted from things like that. They probably should have abandoned the whole "we can't reproduce so let's kidnap children" thing for contrasting that civilization's relationship to technology with that of Earth's. IMO, there's already a moral dilemma in whether a failing technological civilization should be taught how to reproduce by outsiders whose relationship with technology is successful.
Re:The case against AI everything, everywhere, all at once by kristofferg on Thursday October 19, 2023 @02:18PM (#37946506)
Sub what “standard”? I, for one, find the “mixed bag of soapy philosophy” a timeless treat. Not including the later Enterprise and the JJA movies.
Re:The case against AI everything, everywhere, all at once by dekhn on Thursday October 19, 2023 @02:40PM (#37946808)
I think the standard was set in the last few seasons of TNG and the entirety of DS9. The crew gelled better and the topics were more weighty, yet human. I think probably it was around the time that Picard became Locutus and then the cardassian war
Re:The case against AI everything, everywhere, all at once by aaroninsf on Thursday October 19, 2023 @01:28PM (#37945802)
This is us now if you squint.

Survival risk, maybe not, but we are certain to see massive die-off and a decades-long cold start given a perturbation maybe an order larger than the COVID pandemic, when the system is already undergoing unprecedented stress from climate change, as appears likely in the coming century...

Re:The case against AI everything, everywhere, all at once by rbanffy on Saturday October 21, 2023 @10:55AM (#37967295)
COVID was already a lot of disruption to industrial supply chains. A one-two punch like that and we might see some sizeable societal collapse.
Re:The case against AI everything, everywhere, all at once by high_5 on Thursday October 19, 2023 @03:14PM (#37947321)
The problem is the perverse incentive of the market currents. It doesn't matter how you do it, just make the product work before the competition does (an cheaper). If anything crops up, you'll fix it later. AI promises just that and will act as a negative feedback loop for our understanding of the code. The result is Idiocracy scenario where people are just too dumb to realize that the AI organizing the society is not that intelligent.
Re:The case against AI everything, everywhere, all at once by syndicatedjelly on Friday October 20, 2023 @01:28AM (#37952626)
Shameless self-plug: I wrote a couple of short stories which explore the idea that society forgets how to do stuff after outsourcing its knowledge to machines

https://ashwinsundar.com/blog/compiled/untitled-part1.html

https://ashwinsundar.com/blog/compiled/automonk.html

Re:The case against AI everything, everywhere, all at once by rickydroll on Monday October 23, 2023 @10:42PM (#37994336)