Re:How to burnout a software engineer, in 3 easy steps
by ahipple on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @10:48AM
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"Nothing gets sold until something gets built"
Re:How to burnout a software engineer, in 3 easy steps
by jqpabc123 on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @11:38AM
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sell absolutely anything they could get somebody to agree to buy
Yes. In my humble opinion, selling a non-existent product is really just a scam. The sale isn't complete until the product is delivered.
But the salespeople don't care --- and apparently, neither do the execs who reward them with bonuses for their fake sales numbers. If the product doesn't materialize on schedule, it's obviously not the sales person's fault.
Just further illustrates the inherent bias that I mentioned.
Re:How to burnout a software engineer, in 3 easy steps
by kalupa on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @11:34AM
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oh dear, I thought that was common only in my own marketing-in-tech career! My solution was to move away from the agency and to the agency's vendors, instead. Worked so far, a decade on!
Re:How to burnout a software engineer, in 3 easy steps
by Ostrogoth on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @12:06PM
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I work on sales/customer facing side of a non-tech industry, but my experience has been different than root comment. My industry is engineer/finance driven, with sales as more of an afterthought or necessary evil. I try to stay tied in with the development/production side as much as possible for sales, but the mismanagement and culture rot on the development/production side has me looking for a new job as it spreads through the company. It’s tough seeing top performers leave/forced out and petty politics and mismanagement take over. It makes my job much harder. The rot has eventually trickled down to other departments, so I think it’s time to make an exit.
This is just a specific variation on a theme that applies to all of STEM.
The half life a STEM career in the USA is about 10 years. !0 years after graduation, half those with a STEM degree are no longer doing STEM. Another 10 years and those remaining are cut in half again.
But once you start digging into all this you will slowly come to realize that the core of the problem is bigger still --- it is actually a cultural phenomenon that applies to American business in general.
American business views those who create products as expenses to be restricted and controlled. In contrast, those who *sell* products are lavishly praised and rewarded.
The illogic here is deeply rooted and is fully illustrated by phrase I've heard over and over again down through my career.
This is objectively true, but no more so than my counter argument: Bottom Line --- American business has an inherent bias toward those who sell and against those who create. This applies across industries and it has been this way for generations.