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Re:Iowa Man Files Lawsuit After Being Arrested Twice for Cri... by pstuart on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @01:48AM (#37911093)
I'm "convinced" that the "defund the police" was planted to discredit the movement to reform the police. Ugh, what shitty messaging.

My understanding is that police reform is impossible because the system is so corrupt there's no way to make it happen. I've seen many accounts of the good cops quitting because they got harassed out.

Perhaps we should instead focus on messaging for "are the police above the law?" and if not what does that look like? And "why should taxpayers pay for police fuck ups?"

I dunno, just tossing stuff out there. But it's clear that policing is broken and needs fixing, and that won't happen until there's enough unity in wanting to see it happen.

Re:Iowa Man Files Lawsuit After Being Arrested Twice for Cri... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @02:12AM (#37911235)
> police reform is impossible because the system is so corrupt there's no way to make it happen

There are examples of successful police reforms [1]. In egregious cases, forces have been entirely disbanded and rebuilt [2].

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/briefing/george-floyd-buf...

[2] https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/how-defunding-the-poli...

Re:Iowa Man Files Lawsuit After Being Arrested Twice for Cri... by diogenes4 on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @02:19AM (#37911275)
> I'm "convinced" that the "defund the police" was planted to discredit the movement to reform the police.

"Reform"? You mean spend billions more on training so they can ignore all the criticisms levied at the institution? By any metric defund" is bad, reform is worse.

Re:Iowa Man Files Lawsuit After Being Arrested Twice for Cri... by renewiltord on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @02:02AM (#37911178)
Well, no one remembers the names of the other efforts. So they used resources and went nowhere.