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Re:Detroit wants to be the first big American city to tax la... by caminante on Monday October 16, 2023 @09:51PM (#37909426)
You just agreed with the parent.

The carry cost has gone up, forcing action!

Re:Detroit wants to be the first big American city to tax la... by SoftTalker on Monday October 16, 2023 @10:17PM (#37909666)
If the carry cost is too high, who would buy the land?

The thing missing from the above scenarios is:

Owner can't afford the tax, can't find renters, can't find a buyer, so just walks away. This is why so many properties are vacant now. The owners just walked away.

Re:Detroit wants to be the first big American city to tax la... by tmnvix on Monday October 16, 2023 @10:31PM (#37909794)
...the land value then drops. That drop is reflected in the cost of the LVT. A value is found that works for someone.
Re:Detroit wants to be the first big American city to tax la... by caminante on Monday October 16, 2023 @10:47PM (#37909908)
You're skipping a few steps. Tax lien/default sale would reset the land value.

> This is why so many properties are vacant now.

In Detroit...?

People don't walk away because they can't afford taxes. It's because any dollar spent is negative NPV!

Re:Detroit wants to be the first big American city to tax la... by epistasis on Monday October 16, 2023 @11:32PM (#37910236)
Imagine a scenario where land purchase prices hover very close to $0. This is the end result of an effective LVT.

It means that you only pay for the structures, or the cost to remove a blighted structure, etc. It makes real estate more liquid, and allows more people to try their hand at development without having a massive land bank worth millions of dollars.

It decentralizes these decisions and lets more local players get involved. It rewards those who are productive, and encourages those who are squatting on resources to let somebody else give it a shot.

Re:Detroit wants to be the first big American city to tax la... by oneshtein on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @03:18AM (#37911617)
$0 is too high. With high enough taxes it easily can be -$1000 per acre or lower!
Re:Detroit wants to be the first big American city to tax la... by bagels on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @04:26AM (#37912031)
The land is nearly free now. You can't build things in Detroit and make a profit, construction costs outweigh sale price or possible rents.
Re:Detroit wants to be the first big American city to tax la... by mactrey on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @03:01PM (#37919976)
The point is, currently if you build things then you pay higher tax. The current tax structure disincentivizes building things. We don't know what people would build without that disincentive - maybe still nothing, as you are suggesting.
Re:Detroit wants to be the first big American city to tax la... by caminante on Tuesday October 17, 2023 @09:31PM (#37923863)
> The point is, currently if you build things then you pay higher tax.

You're missing THE point.

Your comment is too general.

1. You'll only pay higher taxes if your ratio of land/improvements is above a threshold (TBD).

2. The article says that the proposed change would lower taxes for 95+% of the population.