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Re:USPS is falsifying safety docs as its workers die of heat by hotpotamus on Friday October 13, 2023 @08:15AM (#37869738)
It's called a capitalist economy; not a laborist one. What I've never understood is how this is a surprise to anyone or why labor chooses to vote against their interests.

That said, the heat this year in Texas was brutal (speaking from personal experience) and I don't know how people who work outside do it and how they'll continue to do it as global warming progresses.

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Re:USPS is falsifying safety docs as its workers die of heat by peyton on Friday October 13, 2023 @08:34AM (#37869868)
I thought the USPS was a government agency with unionized employees. What’s the explanation for this abhorrent behavior?
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Re:USPS is falsifying safety docs as its workers die of heat by funnyflywheel on Friday October 13, 2023 @08:44AM (#37869948)
Louis DeJoy is still in charge.
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Re:USPS is falsifying safety docs as its workers die of heat by marcinzm on Friday October 13, 2023 @08:52AM (#37870010)
Unions simply existing don't magically make thing amazing for every employee and the US government doesn't actually care about people any more than corporations do.
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Re:USPS is falsifying safety docs as its workers die of heat by erellsworth on Friday October 13, 2023 @09:26AM (#37870335)
If you read the article, it's pretty clear that this abhorrent behavior is coming from management, with the union pushing back. I'd guess it will be an issue during the next contract negotiations.
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Re:USPS is falsifying safety docs as its workers die of heat by actuallyalys on Friday October 13, 2023 @10:43AM (#37871178)
Agreed. Management’s actions, which are shameful regardless, seem further exacerbated by their ability to track carriers’ position to the minute and possibly having too few employees [0]. The latter may be the after effects of a requirement, since repealed, that required USPS to pre-fund pensions. (That’s not in the article)

To re-emphasize, these factors don’t excuse management’s actions.

[0]: https://apwu.org/press-release/angry-about-late-erratic-miss...

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Re:USPS is falsifying safety docs as its workers die of heat by spacecadet on Friday October 13, 2023 @09:30AM (#37870391)
Its an "independent agency", which as we've seen, acts more or less like a capitalist corporation.
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Re:USPS is falsifying safety docs as its workers die of heat by mrguyorama on Friday October 13, 2023 @12:09PM (#37872149)
Unions for government employees are usually weird and impotent, because the government has either gutted the right to strike, or is straight up willing to just fire everyone.

Or much much worse, just completely ignore all bargaining that the Union attempts. This puts the Union in an odd position in that, people don't usually want to strike, but negotiation doesn't happen.

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Re:USPS is falsifying safety docs as its workers die of heat by hyperman1 on Saturday October 14, 2023 @03:55AM (#37878834)
How did the USA end up in this position? Here, whenever the gov tries to limit the right to strike, the unions respond with an all sector whole country mother of all strikes.
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Re:USPS is falsifying safety docs as its workers die of heat by ChrisMarshallNY on Friday October 13, 2023 @08:47AM (#37869973)
I have a friend that lives in Delhi.

He told me that laborers are dropping dead on the job. It's not uncommon at all.

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Re:USPS is falsifying safety docs as its workers die of heat by akudha on Friday October 13, 2023 @09:12AM (#37870194)
It's not uncommon at all

Yeah, that is the problem. It shouldn't be common

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