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Re:OpenAI is too cheap to beat by SkyMarshal on Thursday October 12, 2023 @02:47PM (#37861298)
Probably the first two, plus first-mover brand recognition. Millions of $20 monthly subs for GPT4 add up.

They might also be operating at a loss afaik, but I suspect they're one of the few that can break even just based on scale, brand recognition, and economics.

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Re:OpenAI is too cheap to beat by sarchertech on Thursday October 12, 2023 @02:58PM (#37861482)
I haven’t heard any evidence that they have millions of Plus subscribers.

I’ve seen 100 to 200 million active users, but nothing about paid users from them. The surveys I saw when doing a quick google search reported much less than 1% of users paying.

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Re:OpenAI is too cheap to beat by SkyMarshal on Thursday October 12, 2023 @03:02PM (#37861548)
Yeah I don't know what the actual subscription numbers are, would be surprised if OpenAI is publishing that info.
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Re:OpenAI is too cheap to beat by saminaustin on Thursday October 12, 2023 @05:51PM (#37863651)
Revenue runrate is over a billion a year now.

https://seekingalpha.com/news/4007459-microsoft-backed-opena...

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Re:OpenAI is too cheap to beat by sarchertech on Thursday October 12, 2023 @06:14PM (#37863861)
My guess is that’s mostly API users not chatgpt plus users.

I’m also very curious how much of that money is VC money coming from startups trying to build their customer base, vs how much actually sustainable.

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Re:OpenAI is too cheap to beat by michaelbuckbee on Thursday October 12, 2023 @02:52PM (#37861382)
$20/mo subs which is also the lead in to also unlocking paid API access.
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