But at low request volumes, either is a rounding error to a medium size enterprise, and for personal projects IMO Lambda is a huge PITA.

One of lambda's ideal use cases is personal projects. Personal projects usually serve very few requests so lambda's ability to scale to zero results in cost savings.

/shill The AWS SAM CLI smooths over a lot of Lambda's rough points. /unshill

Gasp, a shill??

I totally believe you, I just can't see how it becomes easier than chucking a container on Fargate or something. Maybe I've just been scarred by lambda rat's nests in the past.

Yeah, the "proper" way to do Lambdas, shown in so many fancy architecture diagrams, is a rat's nest. I don't like APIs on Lambda unless you can shove them into one container with a catchall proxy on API Gateway. They really shine if you're processing SQS messages or EventBridge events. If you aren't using other AWS services and aren't cost engineering, then Lambdas probably aren't worth the headache.

The serverless framework makes lambda for side projects a breeze.

CDK for everything else.

I don't think that's actually true on a GB-second basis (memory * CPU)?

The cost efficiency of Lambda vs Fargate/EC2 ECS/one of the dozen other ways to run containers on AWS plummets as your RPS goes up.

Lambda is the most expensive thing you can do if you have more than 25% utilization. Fargate is extremely close to modern on-demand EC2 pricing (m7a family).

Yeah you can run Fargate on EC2 now as well to optimize cost even further.

Fargate on EC2? Sorry you’ve lost me, I understood Fargate to be a layer of AWS managed compute for ECS or EKS deliberately instead of EC2.

https://lumigo.io/blog/comparing-amazon-ecs-launch-types-ec2... You can now specify your launch type to be an ec2 instance. This has the benefit of lower cost but you are responsible for managing the instances ex: security patches, etc.

Right, running ECS on EC2, not Fargate on EC2. When ECS launched it only had the EC2 launch type (where as you said you must manage your machines). Fargate then came along for both ECS and EKS where Amazon managed the machines for you.