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Re:Oil sector is lobbying for inefficient hydrogen cars to d... by duskwuff on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @05:38PM (#37837939)
> Putting ten gallons of highly toxic and flammable fuel into a car-shaped object just to commute one person a few dozen miles is quite literally insane from all practical points of view.

And there's another 10-20 gallons of various oils in the engine and transmission. While they aren't nearly as volatile as the gasoline, they're still quite flammable. Really, it's a wonder these things were ever allowed. :)

Re:Oil sector is lobbying for inefficient hydrogen cars to d... by giardini on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @06:44PM (#37838714)
duskwuff says: >"And there's another 10-20 gallons of various oils in the engine and transmission. While they aren't nearly as volatile as the gasoline, they're still quite flammable"<

1. Off by an order of magnitude: ~4-6 quarts of oil in the motor, about the same for the transmission yielding for a large motor about 2 gallons total.

2. duskwuff says >"they're still quite flammable."< Nonsense. Engine oil is so hard to burn that it is not classified as flammable by OSHA:

https://firefighterinsider.com/is-motor-oil-flammable-you-ma...

Furthermore these oils are encased in heavy metal (the engine block, the transmission block and the differential casing).

Starting batteries (the 6- and 12-volt kind) cause more fires than do engine and/or transmission oils.

To paraphrase Charlton Heston: "I'll give you my gasoline car when you can pry it from my cold, greasy, dead hands."