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Re:LLMs can't self-correct in reasoning tasks, DeepMind stud... by YeGoblynQueenne on Monday October 09, 2023 @04:15PM (#37824945)
>> I've repeatedly seen people make much more narrow claims about what LLMs get wrong or what their biases are, where simply regenerating will give a dramatically different answer.

It will, but what's the point of a random answer generator? What's useful is a system that gives correct answers, and can discriminate correct answers from incorrect answers. Otherwise, you can only know that an answer is correct when you already know it, and that's not very useful at all.

Re:LLMs can't self-correct in reasoning tasks, DeepMind stud... by LASR on Monday October 09, 2023 @05:04PM (#37825460)
Assuming “correctness” as being a hard criterion will greatly limit your ability to get powerful and very useful output from LLMs.

A person doing some knowledge work will fail on this criterion. But they still are employable and generally regarded as being useful.

Re:LLMs can't self-correct in reasoning tasks, DeepMind stud... by caturopath on Monday October 09, 2023 @10:46PM (#37828008)
I think usefulness is a different question than capabilities. "LLMs can't do X" is an interesting claim, and it takes some level of systematic work to make it. If the capability exists at all, this is interesting, even if it's not useful. That being said, it doesn't mean such an existing capability will not prove useful. If something is fallible, it might be above a threshold worth using, it might be improved by doing the same techniques that are already being used, or it might be improved by adding on some sort of system to filter or refine responses.

> you can only know that an answer is correct when you already know it, and that's not very useful at all.

This statement makes sense on the surface, but I don't think it's true. All the time I get told things that I don't know the answer to beforehand, but judge pretty well whether it's right or not.